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Paxsanarion
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Re: Remove kill boards from RoR website

Post#71 » Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:09 pm

The joy of battle, teamwork, pulling out a victory when you thought you had no chance. The ability to have epic large scale battles in the open field or to capture/defend actual castles. Strategy….out of the box thinking with different warband compositions. Complex classes with complex interactions all handled in large scale. No other game has these things like Return of Reckoning does. I am ok with the killboard if it helps some folks enjoy the game more then great! But I would hope folks care more about a battle well fought …..win or lose…….than numbers on a kill board.

Have fun and enjoy the glory of the battle I say. Let your decisions in battle reflect on the killboard but dont let the killboard influence your decisions in battle, in my humble opinion.

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Re: Remove kill boards from RoR website

Post#72 » Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:23 pm

I don’t have any problem with the killboard per se.

Its just after a year away from the game, I can’t believe I came back and that time and effort were invested in the killboard while class balance is still terrible and the ORvR campaign is still busted due to weekly rewards farming and practically non-existent city siege.

I feel like there are better priorities.
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Re: Remove kill boards from RoR website

Post#73 » Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:48 pm

CountTalabecland wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:23 pm I don’t have any problem with the killboard per se.

Its just after a year away from the game, I can’t believe I came back and that time and effort were invested in the killboard while class balance is still terrible and the ORvR campaign is still busted due to weekly rewards farming and practically non-existent city siege.

I feel like there are better priorities.
I think they know but for now we only have one real dev sadly. Thank the human behavior they killed each other. There was a lot of devs at the past.

And instead of they think about the game and the majority needs everybody wanted to do their own stuff with their own vision.

So now we are crippled. Maybe the ability framework can save the game.

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Re: Remove kill boards from RoR website

Post#74 » Tue Dec 20, 2022 6:17 pm

Caduceus wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:53 am My main issue with the killboard is that it puts DPS players on a pedestal, while the support without which they'd be useless is nowhere to be found.
It would be very cool to have something similar showing healer heroes and tank heroes :-)

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Re: Remove kill boards from RoR website

Post#75 » Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:56 pm

People are putting way too much stock in the Killboard. It's not as bad nor as great as some people claim. It's not integral to the game nor is it detrimental.

The biggest problem with the game is people joined an RvR game and are afraid to RvR. Nobody likes to die, but give me a break, it's not the end of the world. Who cares? How does your K/D ratio effect the overall point of the game? Oh no! You died 16 times in the scenario! Oh no your K/D is crap! If you're RvRing, news flash, you'll generally die more than kill. It's the nature of the game type. The game isn't 1v1 nor is it about how many times you died. It's about the Realm winning the zones and taking the Forts and then cities at ALL costs, including personal costs. What matters is if your Realm wins, not personal pseudo-glory. What's rewarding isn't having a Killboard or not, it's not important enough in any way to matter if it exists or not. If some like it, fine, if some hate it, fine. It doesn't really matter. What's rewarding is leading your Realm to victory or being a part of the Realm being victorious regardless of the personal cost.

This fear of dying is a new trend and so is the Killboard, so people are naturally connecting them, but that's not why people are being cowards. In WoW, people use deaths to kills ratio in a toxic way because PvP literally means nothing there except e-peening. This isn't WOW, this isn't a PvE game with PvP tacked on. RvR matters here....not PvP....get it? This game is Realm vs Realm, and that's what matters, not Player vs Player. It's just how the recent rotation of active players act. Wasn't like this 6 months ago. As soon as people start realizing the game isn't about your personal k/d, that it's about the Realm, the better it'll be. I'll throw myself against the tide and die over and over and over as whatever class type, I don't care. Your K/D is almost always in your own Realms hands - If you die a lot as a Tank, you're not getting Healed enough, if you die as a Healer, you're not getting Protected enough, if you die as DPS you're not getting Healed OR protected enough. As long as my deaths lead to a Realm Victory, that's what matters, not how many times you die to GET to that Victory.

Killboard or not, it doesn't matter. And if you're putting SO much importance on having it or not having it, you're doing it wrong.
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Paxsanarion
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Re: Remove kill boards from RoR website

Post#76 » Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:16 pm

GrishnakBlagtoof wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:56 pm People are putting way too much stock in the Killboard. It's not as bad nor as great as some people claim. It's not integral to the game nor is it detrimental.

The biggest problem with the game is people joined an RvR game and are afraid to RvR. Nobody likes to die, but give me a break, it's not the end of the world. Who cares? How does your K/D ratio effect the overall point of the game? Oh no! You died 16 times in the scenario! Oh no your K/D is crap! If you're RvRing, news flash, you'll generally die more than kill. It's the nature of the game type. The game isn't 1v1 nor is it about how many times you died. It's about the Realm winning the zones and taking the Forts and then cities at ALL costs, including personal costs. What matters is if your Realm wins, not personal pseudo-glory. What's rewarding isn't having a Killboard or not, it's not important enough in any way to matter if it exists or not. If some like it, fine, if some hate it, fine. It doesn't really matter. What's rewarding is leading your Realm to victory or being a part of the Realm being victorious regardless of the personal cost.

This fear of dying is a new trend and so is the Killboard, so people are naturally connecting them, but that's not why people are being cowards. In WoW, people use deaths to kills ratio in a toxic way because PvP literally means nothing there except e-peening. This isn't WOW, this isn't a PvE game with PvP tacked on. RvR matters here....not PvP....get it? This game is Realm vs Realm, and that's what matters, not Player vs Player. It's just how the recent rotation of active players act. Wasn't like this 6 months ago. As soon as people start realizing the game isn't about your personal k/d, that it's about the Realm, the better it'll be. I'll throw myself against the tide and die over and over and over as whatever class type, I don't care. As long as my deaths lead to a Realm Victory, that's what matters, not how many times you die to GET to that Victory.

Killboard or not, it doesn't matter. And if you're putting SO much importance on having it or not having it, you're doing it wrong.
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Re: Remove kill boards from RoR website

Post#77 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:43 am

The killboard in my opinion is rather silly as it gives zero credit to the true heroes of RoR, the healers and the tanks. Every non solo DPS on that killboard gets an asterisk.

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Re: Remove kill boards from RoR website

Post#78 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:38 am

If you don't care you deahs that you never be good player

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Re: Remove kill boards from RoR website

Post#79 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:11 am

Duukar wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:34 amPlayers of RoR do realize that this game literally NEEDS new players to join and stick around for the game to continue, let alone thrive. Right? Like you need players...

True. Without doubt. But good luck with trying to get the so called 'high end' players to either understand or acknowledge that.
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Re: Remove kill boards from RoR website

Post#80 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 6:30 am

Sometimes you maybe kill somebody, maybe you noticed you get some reward renown warcrest silver items.

Imagine each time you die the killer from the opposite realm get reward so those who die not heroes they are moms who feed the enemy imo, its cool i respect every playstyle. But this false thinking leads us who almost never die (btw they kill a lot) are coward. And we already have enough player from this type (moms), we dont need more imo.

If you like to die, just die if you think you were a hero or martyr or a lifelong learner its ok for me.
But let the guys who actually love kills and not die play the game in peace.

You could be a dead martyr if they dont kill you ist it? You should be greatful.

I already write it this game is not able to make and make and keep new players. The game maybe will be able to get back the old players who left it.

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