The Ability System Rewrite and Provisional Patch Notes

[Akalukz]

Here is Dalen's (and Zomega's) explanation of how armor penetration works.

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Edit: After the patch, mara with PB, 300 ws, and -1600 armor debuff, vs 3.5 k armor (sov healer with armor talis).

300/14= 21.4%. +PB 25%= 46.4%. 3500-1600=1900. 1900 * (1-0.464)= 1018.4 effective armor. /44= 23.1% armor mitigation which the healer will actually have vs the mara.

So actually, a bit less than what they have now, as PB is 50%?

The nerf will probably be felt lot more in aoe build, where mara armor debuff isn't available.

Same 3500 armor, but now without the armor debuff:

300/14= 21.4%. +PB 25%= 46.4%. 3500 * (1-0.464)=1876. /44= 42.6% actual armor mitigation vs aoe.

Zealot aoe armor debuff might actually become sought after. Or everybody will just switch to choppa.

True, but they don't have the debuff now in AoE. So it would still be 21.4% + 25% = 46.4% as long as the tactic is additive and not multiplicative. So an effective loss of 5% or so depending on current WS

[Ninjagon]

Few days off and THIS jumps on me ?
Whow.
Keep the work devs!
I wonder what the spicy future brings us

[nat3s]

Just wanted to be clear, I got it wrong, PB change to Maras is in line with similar changes across all classes. That's precisely the type of change that can shake up a meta and I'm all for it. Only concern would be it could harm kill-time which in a heavily def oriented meta, feels like a change in the wrong direction, everyone will be tankier, but maybe that will help RDPS. Who knows, but I'm reserving judgement until the bigger picture is visible.

[Korsario]

Feels that just made the game more boring with all those changes.

[Ninjagon]

Feels that just made the game more boring with all those changes.

Temporary changes only.

[Bowldancer]

Bug Fixes

- Spellbreaker - Doesn’t remove morale absorb effects anymore.

That is not a bugfix - but rather a balance change. It used to work like that. And it was even spammable due to a lower cd in the original iteration of this skill.

[Fey]

In what universe should a normal ability trump a morale ability? The opposite should be true in every case. I know we've nerfed Morales into the ground, but surely Morales should out-perform regular abilities.

[Detangler]

In what universe should a normal ability trump a morale ability? The opposite should be true in every case. I know we've nerfed Morales into the ground, but surely Morales should out-perform regular abilities.

Sigh..... rampage?

I'm sorry for mentioning this, because it's only going to send this discussion in one direction.

[Omegus]

In what universe should a normal ability trump a morale ability? The opposite should be true in every case. I know we've nerfed Morales into the ground, but surely Morales should out-perform regular abilities.

Sigh..... rampage?

I'm sorry for mentioning this, because it's only going to send this discussion in one direction.

Nope. Rampage makes the attacks undefendable. No amount of block and parry will let you block or parry an attack that cannot be blocked or parried.

[Detangler]

In what universe should a normal ability trump a morale ability? The opposite should be true in every case. I know we've nerfed Morales into the ground, but surely Morales should out-perform regular abilities.

Sigh..... rampage?

I'm sorry for mentioning this, because it's only going to send this discussion in one direction.

Nope. Rampage makes the attacks undefendable. No amount of block and parry will let you block or parry an attack that cannot be blocked or parried.

Fey asked what abilities trump Morales- rampage trumps Morales that give block/parry.