Linis - The change we need

[Scottx125]

You have some good points ! However, I never mention any 2 hour pots.

As for the 1 hour Linis - The exchange rate of war crests and the drop rate of the new currency should be calculated to make this a rare-ish potion. Can be used in organized WBs, Cities, LOTD - Saved for times you do not want to run out of your potion.

No you didn't, but if you increase liniments, you must increase the duration of potions. If potions and liniments are 1h each you make liniments more valuable and make potions less valuable. The value proposition needs to remain the same imo. So if you increase the duration of liniments potions must also increase.

Well the whole point of my post was to say I do not want to just change the Linis to 1 hour. I want you to have to use 3 linis to make 1 (hour long) lini along with a purchased crafting mat. So This 1 hour lini is the price of 3 linis and the time to obtain the crafting mat. They shouldnt be this super abundant potion to use each time.

Why would you do that when you can just use the 3 normal linis.. The 1 hour linis are far more inefficient in that case compared to normal linis. All because It's apparently difficult to keep track of a 30 minute timer? Any sane person would just use the normal linis.

[trh382]

I agree that 1 hour linis would be a great idea

I think you could accomplish this more easily through alchemy as it exists

Currently Liniments are always crafted using 1 of 2 recipes:

1. Expensive Liniments
Level 1 Vial
x2 Majestic Goldweed (or 200 zoic gore)
x1 Pristine Arboreal Resin
= x2 of the liniment

2. Cheap Liniments
Level 1 Vial
x3 Pristine Arboreal Resin
=x2 of the liniment

Easy way to 1 Hour liniments: create situation where a new butchering or cultivating material can be used to create 1 hour liniment.

Currently Liniments require 25 stability. you can get to 22 stability with 2 stabilizers or 32 with 3 so everyone has to use 3 stabilizers.

2 of the stabilizer points come from the 150 vial so you need 23 more.

Butchering currently is valuable on some mobs, but worthless on others.

Cats, Bears, and Boars are very low value butchering targets.

Add an item:
Cat Entrails
Bear Entrails
Boar Entrails

+7 stability, x1 extender for liniments only

x2 entrails + 1 arboreal resin + 150 vial will equal a single 1 hour liniment at a similar cost to the x2 30 minute liniments.

[MedV]

No you didn't, but if you increase liniments, you must increase the duration of potions. If potions and liniments are 1h each you make liniments more valuable and make potions less valuable. The value proposition needs to remain the same imo. So if you increase the duration of liniments potions must also increase.

Well the whole point of my post was to say I do not want to just change the Linis to 1 hour. I want you to have to use 3 linis to make 1 (hour long) lini along with a purchased crafting mat. So This 1 hour lini is the price of 3 linis and the time to obtain the crafting mat. They shouldnt be this super abundant potion to use each time.

Why would you do that when you can just use the 3 normal linis.. The 1 hour linis are far more inefficient in that case compared to normal linis. All because It's apparently difficult to keep track of a 30 minute timer? Any sane person would just use the normal linis.

Its called spending money for QOL improvements and many people would do it .... including me. At high levels people dont mind spending money to make sure they dont have a pot wear off during a fight

[Scottx125]

Well the whole point of my post was to say I do not want to just change the Linis to 1 hour. I want you to have to use 3 linis to make 1 (hour long) lini along with a purchased crafting mat. So This 1 hour lini is the price of 3 linis and the time to obtain the crafting mat. They shouldnt be this super abundant potion to use each time.

Why would you do that when you can just use the 3 normal linis.. The 1 hour linis are far more inefficient in that case compared to normal linis. All because It's apparently difficult to keep track of a 30 minute timer? Any sane person would just use the normal linis.

Its called spending money for QOL improvements and many people would do it .... including me. At high levels people dont mind spending money to make sure they dont have a pot wear off during a fight

Ok.. I don't get it but sure. One condition I'd have is that the value proposition of the 1 hour linis over the 30 min ones would have to be significantly worse in order to not devalue potions or current linis.