Squig and Shaman. Help Shadow Warrior.

[tatupetinati2004]

Broken Classes, destro dont play with anything else, squig is supposed to be the SW of destro but SWs have no AP and cant barely hit, squigs have aoe punt, self punt, slow, disarm, aoe dmg, insane armour penetration, and the running tactic. Shaman is almost unbeatable, need 3 mdps to kill it. Lake is full of them and small scale is ruined by small groups of squigs and shamans. I beg you devs, nerf them. They dont need to be like this and SW doesnt need to suck.

Sorry if this looks like im crying but it get's me tired to go roam, look for a good fight and get smashed by squig and shamans everywhere.

[Zxul]

Interesting, I play destro only, pretty much only solo roam, and I don't play neither sham not sh.

[salazarn]

I wouldn't say destro only roam shaman or squig. I would say maybe 55-65% of destro roamers are shaman or squig

[Niemosin7]

small scale is not in a good shape but use to be better than this tho, have fun all the time when my group encounter other destro group with mixer of every class. Nowaday for god no reason it just sh/sham squad running all over the map ruining the fun. They really spread like mushroom not gonna lie... oh wait

[Farrul]

Once upon a time there was WL to keep these goblins in check, a natural remedy to the goblin incursion.

But due to continuously QQ on the forums and many goblin tears later the class was nerfed successively under a long period of time, then the final nail in the coffin came in the ability rework patch, suddenly the pet was full of bugs and poor AI.

To make matters worse the speed training tactic( the only thing catching goblins) was either stealth nerfed without telling anyone or was another victim of the ability rework. The pet is slow as hell even with the tactic on and does some reverse speed move decelerate when near the target to allow it to escape, ridiculous.

Like with any infection in a system , without proper defences it will spread, hence why we see the green plague everywhere in the lakes since there isn't anything to stop them anymore.

Yes roaming as Order is harsh as of this moment, try destro it will be easier and a less frustrating experience overall.

[cacumen]

rSH has been nerfed to the ground dude, I used to play it and now I dont wanna even look at it, luckily still have mSH to be useful. r

SW is too strong compared to rSH.

[Moonbiter]

Good observe, but the summary is wrong.

A lot of goblins soloing is due other destro classes except WE are **** for solo. Not because gits are op.

Imho, SW and AM soloing is even better. But classes proportion for order is more equal because of soloing disbalance:
SM > BO
WL > Mara
IB > BG
BW > Sorc
Other classes cant say for sure.

[Farrul]

Good observe, but the summary is wrong.

A lot of goblins soloing is due other destro classes except WE are **** for solo. Not because gits are op.

Imho, SW and AM soloing is even better. But classes proportion for order is more equal because of soloing disbalance:
SM > BO
WL > Mara
IB > BG
BW > Sorc
Other classes cant say for sure.

Let me correct you.

SM->BO
IB = BG
Magus->Engi
Chosen->kotbs
RSH->SW
MSH->SW
Shaman->AM
WH = WE
Mara->WL . If pet is fixed. WL = Mara.

SW soloing is not good unless player is exceptionally skilled (MDPV) , ASW nerfed too much, Ranged can't deal with goblins.

Witch elf is not a problem, only regen WE was extremely OP but seems more balanced now. I need to test it further.

[Sever1n]

Topic starter is right. SW need hard rework after all those years of pain. Instead it was put of misery by nerf. Gobbos was at peak of survivability for years agains. Bullshit racials, bugged pets that shoots trough walls, no celerity to worry about, and now no lion pets as cherry in top of it. If balance path devs promise wont fix obvios disbalance, ill prob drop game. Enough is enough. Instatresers with 75% dmg mitigation and unholy speed prock sounds like joke, but for some reasons some people dont see any problem.

[salazarn]

Good observe, but the summary is wrong.

A lot of goblins soloing is due other destro classes except WE are **** for solo. Not because gits are op.

Imho, SW and AM soloing is even better. But classes proportion for order is more equal because of soloing disbalance:
SM > BO
WL > Mara
IB > BG
BW > Sorc
Other classes cant say for sure.

That is honestly one of the worst takes i've ever seen on the forums. Who solos bright wizard? How is def mara not good? Anyway

sham > am
sh > sw
magus > eng
chosen > kotbs

Plenty of solo options on destro