tri vic slot 3 50% price reduction

[Gunlinger]

Nothing stops you from doing Granked. Build your group and queue up. There are certain guilds that even "spar" internally, with insignias being available outside of the season. If you think about it, compared to how difficult it was to achieve Triumphant Jewelry a year ago, the current situation is pretty much a giveaway.

The ranked system itself stops you from getting the ring via ranked. If you fail to topscore bracket you will not get the insignia. And if you fail to get a high mmr in the first week, you will not even get a pop for ranked in the following weeks, because there will be no players left in lowest bracket to queue with.

[Aluviya]

Nothing stops you from doing Granked. Build your group and queue up. There are certain guilds that even "spar" internally, with insignias being available outside of the season. If you think about it, compared to how difficult it was to achieve Triumphant Jewelry a year ago, the current situation is pretty much a giveaway.

The ranked system itself stops you from getting the ring via ranked. If you fail to topscore bracket you will not get the insignia. And if you fail to get a high mmr in the first week, you will not even get a pop for ranked in the following weeks, because there will be no players left in lowest bracket to queue with.

We are talking about Groupranked (Granked). You can build your own group, queue up. If everyone would be doing that currently (and even considering some veterans might "farm" new group) you would also meet other newbie groups if there were enough to queue. Currently even outside of the season you can get Insignias via Granked. With every win you get 1 Insignia, but also Insignia via weekly Ranked Influence.

[memesperg]

This could be resolved by taking the talisman off slot 3 entirely and making - for example - chest pieces have the fancy talismans instead. No more "need" for 10K Tri/Vic rings and opens up more gear combos.

i would be happy with this as i think alot of people forget normal people have 1-2hrs per day for things like computer games so the grind for casuals/normals is like 10months+ for their set than add another 10months for a tri/vic ring & that is not good game design imho.

The i did it so you have to is such a sad argument to make

@Aluviya why people dont do ranked
1 gear level required
2 voice coms
3 3rd party ranked discords
4 toxic players if you are new & dont do or play what they yell at you in discord
5 50% of class not viable for 6man mega punt moral dump meta
6 1% of the player base find unbalanced 6man content enjoyable
the list goes on

[Vibax]

The fact that 1 item unlock so much is good and feels great once you achieve it.
MMORPG always has a progression system that rewards the players that r more invested than the more casual players.
Even tho the item is great and unlock good potential the diff is important between someone with the ring and somebody without, but not broken.
What is really sad isnt the long grind, it is just the lack of players wanted to do ranked.
Right now the ranked game is not attractiv for many reason and this should be the focus point of it.
I see a lot of post that wanna make the game more and more casual, people have to accept that the progression system exist and has to reward the more hardcore players cause they r the one that stay around. Casual players make the player base bigger but hardcore /longtime players make the game stabble, and create a lot of things for the casuals. Guilds, during the day WB leaders etc they need to be rewarded.
You cant indefinitly find new players you have to work on keeping the players in, and in my opinion working hard to get something (full BIS class, RR80+) is what make people care about the game, the char etc.
Please we need more work on those who invest time and effort.
Less Cusual/Pugish decision more progressions for the players.

[memesperg]

The fact that 1 item unlock so much is good and feels great once you achieve it.
MMORPG always has a progression system that rewards the players that r more invested than the more casual players.
Even tho the item is great and unlock good potential the diff is important between someone with the ring and somebody without, but not broken.
What is really sad isnt the long grind, it is just the lack of players wanted to do ranked.
Right now the ranked game is not attractiv for many reason and this should be the focus point of it.
I see a lot of post that wanna make the game more and more casual, people have to accept that the progression system exist and has to reward the more hardcore players cause they r the one that stay around. Casual players make the player base bigger but hardcore /longtime players make the game stabble, and create a lot of things for the casuals. Guilds, during the day WB leaders etc they need to be rewarded.
You cant indefinitly find new players you have to work on keeping the players in, and in my opinion working hard to get something (full BIS class, RR80+) is what make people care about the game, the char etc.
Please we need more work on those who invest time and effort.
Less Cusual/Pugish decision more progressions for the players.

they tried what you said & we just lose players doing the same thing over & over & expecting aa different result is stupid, gamers have evolved in the 10+ years since this game was made so if you dont make it casual & normal friendly you end up with what we have now a dead game apart from a 3hr window of EU prime & even then the numbers are low, basing a game around the hardcore players & expecting normal/causal players to invest all their free time for over 12months to get BIS is what got us into this mess, no one is saying remove the grind it really needs to be toned down if RoR expects to gain & hold new player interest

[Aethilmar]

And then what are you going to do with your crests?

[memesperg]

And then what are you going to do with your crests?

buy other sets for appearances & pot or boots/gloves to sell on ah like the people that have been playing for years

[Vibax]

And then what are you going to do with your crests?

buy other sets for appearances & pot or boots/gloves to sell on ah like the people that have been playing for years

Or maybe dont give a damn about a ring, I have plenty of char and I dont over stress it about 1 ring. Yes it's part of the BIS list but you can perform very very well without it ... If people are Hidding behind not having the ring as an excuse for not performing well the prob is elsewhere , Senti ring + Triumphant Sov works wonders and by the time you get to 78 RR you should have enough crest for all of it, just go 4 triumphant 3 sov 2 senti (or 4 sov without senti bonus) for exemple with double genesis or double annulus (that's an exemple for a Mdps). The diff between that gear and the full bis is pretty much 6% crit and many class dont have extra crit damage modifiers and people dont play with Jagged Edge ...
Wanted to be full BiS is often more of an ego thing that the actual reason why people (even more when we talk about casuals ...) perform or not.

[memesperg]

And then what are you going to do with your crests?

buy other sets for appearances & pot or boots/gloves to sell on ah like the people that have been playing for years

Or maybe dont give a damn about a ring, I have plenty of char and I dont over stress it about 1 ring. Yes it's part of the BIS list but you can perform very very well without it ... If people are Hidding behind not having the ring as an excuse for not performing well the prob is elsewhere , Senti ring + Triumphant Sov works wonders and by the time you get to 78 RR you should have enough crest for all of it, just go 4 triumphant 3 sov 2 senti (or 4 sov without senti bonus) for exemple with double genesis or double annulus (that's an exemple for a Mdps). The diff between that gear and the full bis is pretty much 6% crit and many class dont have extra crit damage modifiers and people dont play with Jagged Edge ...
Wanted to be full BiS is often more of an ego thing that the actual reason why people (even more when we talk about casuals ...) perform or not.

telling mmo players not to care about BIS slot 3 is laughable

[Aluviya]

You have to see this whole topic in a different light, guys. The game has barely anything to achieve beyond BiS - and this is an MMO make your own conclusions, so this is mostly the last grind people do with their characters as there is no other content left to grind. So, I would highly assume at this point that the cost of this item is also due to content stretching to make players play longer than they usually would. This is just a fact that most people lose interest in playing a character beyond BiS because there are nearly zero rewards after that, aside from the individual goals you set for yourself or your group you play with.

It's also worth mentioning that, back in the original ranked game design, it took many weeks to grind this ring via ranked matches—so there is a part of me that actually wants reward fairness here, having grinded the ring in ranked on six characters.