[PTS] Patch Notes 28/02/2025
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 28/02/2025
Covenant of cancerity finaly gone. Oh happy day. Im happy to finally see patch that matters and hope this all will work alltogether on my am and dok. Maybe devs can give us another present and fix dead state of sc?
Noximilien - AM, Severi - SM, Ravandin - SW, Celebor - WL, Ernwald - WH, Demandred - BG, Mesana - Sork, Beliar - DoK.
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 28/02/2025
There are no changes to Covenant of Celerity at this time.
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 28/02/2025
Well day back to shitty.
Noximilien - AM, Severi - SM, Ravandin - SW, Celebor - WL, Ernwald - WH, Demandred - BG, Mesana - Sork, Beliar - DoK.
Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 28/02/2025
i spec even now 2 rituals and use the second one when we move too far from the heal one. So i get that game decision but to certain degree. Imo rituals should have 30 sec cd and 20 sec duration so even if u got only 1 u get 10 sec offtime and if u got 2 which is kinda common you could rotate more freely depends of situation.
btw 50% less ap for all skills for whole group is kinda op. Here on ror ap healers never end without ap. firstly u got 50 extra ap, bigger natural regen, many ap procs from cast heal and duo ap pots. So one of the main selling point of heal dok/wp aka untouchable \cant be debuffed, leech and so on\ resource pool is gone. Now AP users got much easier and kinda endless pool while dok/wp should manage their cast resource constantly and it become negative and dont give anything positive for the class. AM had tactic that when heal crit made all healing 50% less ap cost for all heals and that was nerfed cos was too op now u give that for the whole group, meh
btw 50% less ap for all skills for whole group is kinda op. Here on ror ap healers never end without ap. firstly u got 50 extra ap, bigger natural regen, many ap procs from cast heal and duo ap pots. So one of the main selling point of heal dok/wp aka untouchable \cant be debuffed, leech and so on\ resource pool is gone. Now AP users got much easier and kinda endless pool while dok/wp should manage their cast resource constantly and it become negative and dont give anything positive for the class. AM had tactic that when heal crit made all healing 50% less ap cost for all heals and that was nerfed cos was too op now u give that for the whole group, meh
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 28/02/2025
After testing the wrath WP on the ptr, my conclusion is that the spec will not be viable for roaming anymore, it will need to be babysitted by a guard bot at all times or implode vs ranged dps. Basically a mdps with zero defences vs ranged classe which is just sad from a balance point of view.Reivren27 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 01, 2025 9:40 amAbsolutely correct remark. I'm afraid that if the developers do not reconsider some aspects before introducing the patch, then dps wp/dok will only be playable in wb as aoe spamFarrul wrote: ↑Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:34 am Some good things, some bad things.
But one important thing ( Regarding DPS WP). It has no gap- closer, an no longer a ranged detaunt.
You removed the 100 ft range detaunt leaving the WP completely vulnerable to ranged kiters, previously it could detaunt a shaman/ranged dps. Now it is a sitting duck.
One interesting thing:
You added Judgement to dps tree but without the snare.
This also applies to Dok DPS but at least they can use Covenant of celerity with the Judgement equivalent and tro to snare from range( with tactic 35% proc). WP 2H is a sitting duck.
P.S. The new detaunt ability is really bad for dps WP, 15 sec cd / 5 sec duration, at least make that equivalent to mdps, 10 sec cd/ 5 duration.
What i would suggest to the dev team, at least give the wrath WP repent back, remove the book/shield restriction. Makes no sense that Grace WP has it which is more tankier and the more vulnerable Wrath WP has literally zero defences against ranged dps now. How can that be balance in the view of the dev team

P.S. And for all that is sacred, put a 20% snare back on judgement. Spec is melee with zero gap-closers. It can't even use Flee+ AP pot to catch something since it drains all the righteouss fury, unlike all the mdps classes that have both a charge + flee+ ap pots available.
Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 28/02/2025
My .2€ simply push it to production no need to prolong the theory crafting
Especially in the an/shm there are adjustments that are likely to be made (downwards) since a well played am/shm will be op. Solo life tap specs will be to strong as an example
One thing tho I believe a 3pts mechanic (instead of 5pts ) would be more suitable if you truly want skill to have an impact. If this is doable or not or some abilities should build multiple points to gain a more flip flopy mechanic is another question
Proccing rituals should have been removed ages ago buffing rp/zele if needed (which I doubt). Just to impactful to spread 25% hb absorbs with 100% uptime
(Ps the shields of am shmy aren’t correctly tagged in db. Wild healing is crazy you need to fix that one. GG on nerfing goblin racials again)
(Ds. The dps zele /rp will be the new fotm since it gained a burst sequence)
Especially in the an/shm there are adjustments that are likely to be made (downwards) since a well played am/shm will be op. Solo life tap specs will be to strong as an example
One thing tho I believe a 3pts mechanic (instead of 5pts ) would be more suitable if you truly want skill to have an impact. If this is doable or not or some abilities should build multiple points to gain a more flip flopy mechanic is another question
Proccing rituals should have been removed ages ago buffing rp/zele if needed (which I doubt). Just to impactful to spread 25% hb absorbs with 100% uptime
(Ps the shields of am shmy aren’t correctly tagged in db. Wild healing is crazy you need to fix that one. GG on nerfing goblin racials again)
(Ds. The dps zele /rp will be the new fotm since it gained a burst sequence)
A reasonable RvR system that could make the majority happy http://imgur.com/HL6cgl7
Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 28/02/2025
Oh man! So excited for the AM changes! I am interested to see how this will affect the current AM BiS talis/gear tho. Rn it looks like AMs prefer full sov w/ mostly armor talis. But with these changes, specifically the consistent decrease in base healing and consistent increase in HB, it looks like more willpower will be much needed. Very interested to see how this new mechanic adjusts the meta gear!
Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 28/02/2025
No mele dps has a range detaunt. Why should mele/wp have one?Farrul wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 6:09 amAfter testing the wrath WP on the ptr, my conclusion is that the spec will not be viable for roaming anymore, it will need to be babysitted by a guard bot at all times or implode vs ranged dps. Basically a mdps with zero defences vs ranged classe which is just sad from a balance point of view.Reivren27 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 01, 2025 9:40 amAbsolutely correct remark. I'm afraid that if the developers do not reconsider some aspects before introducing the patch, then dps wp/dok will only be playable in wb as aoe spamFarrul wrote: ↑Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:34 am Some good things, some bad things.
But one important thing ( Regarding DPS WP). It has no gap- closer, an no longer a ranged detaunt.
You removed the 100 ft range detaunt leaving the WP completely vulnerable to ranged kiters, previously it could detaunt a shaman/ranged dps. Now it is a sitting duck.
One interesting thing:
You added Judgement to dps tree but without the snare.
This also applies to Dok DPS but at least they can use Covenant of celerity with the Judgement equivalent and tro to snare from range( with tactic 35% proc). WP 2H is a sitting duck.
P.S. The new detaunt ability is really bad for dps WP, 15 sec cd / 5 sec duration, at least make that equivalent to mdps, 10 sec cd/ 5 duration.
What i would suggest to the dev team, at least give the wrath WP repent back, remove the book/shield restriction. Makes no sense that Grace WP has it which is more tankier and the more vulnerable Wrath WP has literally zero defences against ranged dps now. How can that be balance in the view of the dev team
P.S. And for all that is sacred, put a 20% snare back on judgement. Spec is melee with zero gap-closers. It can't even use Flee+ AP pot to catch something since it drains all the righteouss fury, unlike all the mdps classes that have both a charge + flee+ ap pots available.
Every mele dps must have guard/heal.
I don't understand what the problem is.
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 28/02/2025
Maybe since they dont get a snare break or charge?
A reasonable RvR system that could make the majority happy http://imgur.com/HL6cgl7
Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 28/02/2025
I was expecting a zeal/rp nerf. Reducing the zeal/rp potential was necessary and a very good move.
The healing ritual took all the others out of the game.
Zeal/rp are by far the strongest healers in the game and there is nothing stopping them from being the weakest now.
However, the changes forcing the use of 3 different rituals are probably not accurate.
Additionally, I am concerned about the 50 feet range.
In my opinion, it was enough to remove from healing ritual treating it like direct healing and that would solve most of the problems.
Why hasn't zeal m1 been nerfed?
Just move it to m2 slot (then using armor/Resistance debuff would involve no focused mind) or reduce debuff.
The healing ritual took all the others out of the game.
Zeal/rp are by far the strongest healers in the game and there is nothing stopping them from being the weakest now.
However, the changes forcing the use of 3 different rituals are probably not accurate.
Additionally, I am concerned about the 50 feet range.
In my opinion, it was enough to remove from healing ritual treating it like direct healing and that would solve most of the problems.
Why hasn't zeal m1 been nerfed?
Just move it to m2 slot (then using armor/Resistance debuff would involve no focused mind) or reduce debuff.
Hurub Chopa 80+ / Wybrany Chosen 80+ / Mroczniak BG 60+ / Alubercik BO 50+ / Doczek DoK 80+ / Hurubek Zeal 80+ /
Misio Shaman 80+ / Maxra Mara 60+ / Alubertus RP 70+ / Alubert KTB 80+ / Mnich WP 60+ / Kregi SL 60+ / Uposledzonyjez IB 40+
Misio Shaman 80+ / Maxra Mara 60+ / Alubertus RP 70+ / Alubert KTB 80+ / Mnich WP 60+ / Kregi SL 60+ / Uposledzonyjez IB 40+
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