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Re: SwordMaster

Post#11 » Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:42 pm

Removal of choppa pull would definitely fix the fact that some braindead ppl initiate with applying global punt immunity in SCs to the whole enemy frontline.
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Re: SwordMaster

Post#12 » Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:12 pm

Japzor wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:26 pm Sure Kleinbuchstabe the Mirror of SM is't BG But why did BG then get the WW ?
Because all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

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Re: SwordMaster

Post#13 » Fri Mar 21, 2025 11:16 am

tefnaht wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:12 pm
Japzor wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:26 pm Sure Kleinbuchstabe the Mirror of SM is't BG But why did BG then get the WW ?
Because all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
ooookk. dude u need to stop smoking....

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Re: SwordMaster

Post#14 » Fri Mar 21, 2025 11:53 am

Japzor wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 11:16 am
tefnaht wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:12 pm
Japzor wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:26 pm Sure Kleinbuchstabe the Mirror of SM is't BG But why did BG then get the WW ?
Because all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
ooookk. dude u need to stop smoking....
Animal farm, Orwell...

In some cases dev position "we will mirror because uniqueness between sides hard to balance" and in some cases "it had to be unique and unmirrored". If you interested - just count tactics and abilities between "mirrors" and make own decision it's biased(and for wich side) or not.

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Re: SwordMaster

Post#15 » Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:48 pm

Japzor wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:26 pm Sure Kleinbuchstabe the Mirror of SM is't BG But why did BG then get the WW ?
good question. Apparently its just a placeholder for something else, and self heal will be back eventually.

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Re: SwordMaster

Post#16 » Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:44 pm

I think Swordmasters should have a disarm because Sword Master.
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Re: SwordMaster

Post#17 » Fri Mar 21, 2025 5:14 pm

Martok wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:44 pm I think Swordmasters should have a disarm because Sword Master.
He got a knock down.
Would you trade for disarm?
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Re: SwordMaster

Post#18 » Fri Mar 21, 2025 5:18 pm

Templa wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:42 pm Removal of choppa pull would definitely fix the fact that some braindead ppl initiate with applying global punt immunity in SCs to the whole enemy frontline.
I completely agree.
Choppa is my main dps class and I would love to remove GTDC.
That skill is something I never buy.
From the perspective of a person who plays mostly tanks, this GTDC is a blessing for the order. Simply free immunity.
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Re: SwordMaster

Post#19 » Fri Mar 21, 2025 5:25 pm

Alubert wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 5:18 pm
Templa wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:42 pm Removal of choppa pull would definitely fix the fact that some braindead ppl initiate with applying global punt immunity in SCs to the whole enemy frontline.
I completely agree.
Choppa is my main dps class and I would love to remove GTDC.
That skill is something I never buy.
From the perspective of a person who plays mostly tanks, this GTDC is a blessing for the order. Simply free immunity.
Agree. That and the dmg only occurring every 2 seconds is actually bad damage and a burst loss.
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Re: SwordMaster

Post#20 » Fri Mar 21, 2025 5:27 pm

kleinbuchstabe wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:16 am
Japzor wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:22 am Think that m2 on SM, need to be put back to m1. Also think that the sm need a healing debuff like the blackguard has.
Yes sure, and maybe give him some aoe stagger for dessert, or maybe some grudge mechanic ? AE knowckdown? or range atacks?


Japzor wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:22 am Chopper pull is just stupid if u ask me. so maybe remove it.
nobody asked you. so maybe remove thread. btw, most choppas i know dont even use it. and it was nerfed allready.


Japzor wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:22 am Maybe also look into Slayers that nerf was just to big.
Maybe it just brought slayers have to l2p now to do good dmg, and not only push 2 buttons and let their tactics do the damage. Finaly that gamebraking mechanic is fixed. Since the class is not broken and op anymore, nobody wants to play it? hmm, well...


Japzor wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:22 am in wb they do half the dps as bw and wl so it need to be fix.
yes, WL ae dmg need to be fixed :D Its normal and intended that bw does more aoe bombing dmg than a slayer, it was jsut broken in the past. same goes for sorc and choppa. And for WL too, when they fixed this op 360° ae dmg spam... so again, no need to complain...


Japzor wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:22 am ill know that sorc and bw has m2 for roots but really they need something to help the moving.
yes sure, and maybe some absorb shield as well? or some self heal? stagger?



actually, i think you dont got a single point here.
it feels like a wishlist like "please make my toons op, and nerf the other side!"
A very precise answer with which I completely agree.

SL is not weak.
The low popularity is partly due to the necessary balance and the simultaneous, overly strong reinforcement of WL.
Ask more about fixing WL and not restoring SL, which has been ailing for years.
Now you have to think how you play SL and not as before fire up 2 skill and watch your target(s) die along with the guarduing tanks.
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