[PTS] Patch Notes 07/09/2025

[ritual]

its bad decision to nerf numbers of Blessed Bullets of Purity and Kiss of Agony
on WH in my opinion this buff shouldn't work through Dragon Gun in aoe at all, should change that, not numbers
and a WE can't proc Kisss of Agony aoe at all
so its no point nerf

[leftayparxoun]

and a WE can't proc Kisss of Agony aoe at all
so its no point nerf

You can proc it in AOE form via "On Your Knees!" (and with "Slice" with the "Broad Severings" tactic)

[Illuminati]

The chosen reduction to debuffs (240 to 120 resis aura,120 to 100 other auras, wounds from 120 to 100) balance the increase in final tick of relentless (good luck getting that off btw with the modded Retalert mod!) and the dot from blastwave/dizzying blow.

Basically, if you suck at math,

Chosen single target (in group) stayed the same due to the debuff reduction.
Chosen AOE dmg bonus for group got reduced due to the debuff reduction and wounds debuff reduction.
Chosen single target (solo) maybe slightly improved.

A very nice QOL improvement for tanks with the snare included with the punt. The 2x gcd to do that before really made it crap to play for tanks due to the 1.5 gcd. Love the new Aura impact on abilities.

[Alubert]

You are wrong. 1.6k last tic on construct without resist debuff (imagine resist debuff from others). 2.4K on target dumny.
They have to stop relentless buff and Daemonclaw should be removed or change str/toug stat to ini/toug.

[leftayparxoun]

Basically, if you suck at math,

Chosen single target (in group) stayed the same due to the debuff reduction.

If we are speaking about situations where the enemies have/had resist buffs on, then this patch actually increases non-physical damage compared to before.
Check my analysis on the topic earlier in this thread, here

[Illuminati]

You are wrong. 1.6k last tic on construct without resist debuff (imagine resist debuff from others). 2.4K on target dumny.
They have to stop relentless buff and Daemonclaw should be removed or change str/toug stat to ini/toug.

Show me with data or math how I am wrong...

No offense, but I don't think you comprehend the mitigation of the construct (which has very little) or the shield. Stop testing on dummies as it is about as relevant to real ROR combat as having 30 alts 80+ and assuming your opinion trumps all others (Dunning Kruger much?)

Test it against a player which will have toughness, an absorb, a buff to their resistance to counter the debuff, under the effect of challenge. Have you ever tried to channel an ability with all the AoE interrupts or retalert-table-verison out there? You also don't like Deamonclaw, which if ever played a chosen on live, you would realize RoR chosen is a pale comparison and leads me to believe you want 2H Chosen to be a weaker version of 2H KOTBS in every way...

[ritual]

and a WE can't proc Kisss of Agony aoe at all
so its no point nerf

You can proc it in AOE form via "On Your Knees!" (and with "Slice" with the "Broad Severings" tactic)

it possible yes, but is random, and completely useless as result, so its literally = "WE cant proc it aoe"

[leftayparxoun]

You can proc it in AOE form via "On Your Knees!" (and with "Slice" with the "Broad Severings" tactic)

it possible yes, but is random, and completely useless as result, so its literally = "WE cant proc it aoe"

BO's "Da Biggest!" and BG's "Hastened Doom" tactic are also chance based in their AOE debuff application, yet those were also standardised to 100 as a result.
WE can proc it in AOE, even though currently it doesn't make too much sense to rely on that if there's a Mara around.

Regardless, standardization is the point of this patch. Balancing will probably come later as the post implies.

[Illuminati]

Basically, if you suck at math,

Chosen single target (in group) stayed the same due to the debuff reduction.

If we are speaking about situations where the enemies have/had resist buffs on, then this patch actually increases non-physical damage compared to before.
Check my analysis on the topic earlier in this thread, here

-20 on the wounds debuff (Blastwave will also do less dmg)
-20 on the str buff
-20 on the toughness debuff

If there is any sort of ST increase, would guess its immaterial (+/- 5%) within group play combat for Chosen.

What is the difference in % dmg with an effective loss of 60 resis? Take that +% increase and weigh that vs the reduction in dmg from Blastwave's Wave, Relentless ticks etc. and you will probably be somewhere near my guess. Also, the new bubbles will eat up that small increase.

My opinion is that overall, it just made the class more interesting to play (since you can sequence aura (non-gcd) at the beginning of an ability to 'twist' in a few extra effects and build a higher skill ceiling for players. Also waiting to see the DPS patch to see if they add anymore absorb bubbles, making all this modeling irrelevant.

[leftayparxoun]

-20 on the wounds debuff (Blastwave will also do less dmg)
-20 on the str buff
-20 on the toughness debuff

• Wounds debuff was reduced by 20 but also most common Wounds buffs (e.g. WP buff) got reduced by 30

• The strength and toughness changes go both ways. If the enemy also has an AOE debuff then your buff also cancels out. e.g. 120-120 = 0 before, 100-100 = 0 now. The same thing happens to both STR and TOU but for them the AOE or ST (de)buffs are not equally common (AOE STR ability buffs more common than ST and ST TOU ability debuffs more common than AOE). So if anything I'd expect a tiny dps increase overall from this effect (if there is any).

If there is any sort of ST increase, would guess its immaterial (+/- 5%) within group play combat for Chosen.

What is the difference in % dmg with an effective loss of 60 resis? Take that +% increase and weigh that vs the reduction in dmg from Blastwave's Wave, Relentless ticks etc. and you will probably be somewhere near my guess. Also, the new bubbles will eat up that small increase.

Most people are around 430 resists before buffs and debuffs, so assuming 9 points in Chosen/KOTBS resist (de)buffs then

• currently: 430 +164 resists = 594 = 35.4% dmg mitigation --> you take 64.6% damage from non-physical attacks

• with the proposed patch changes: 430 +104 resists = 534 = 31.8% dmg mitigation --> you take 68.2% damage from non-physical attacks

Damage increase due to this change = 68.2/64.6 = 5.6% damage increase for non-physical attacks