EU primetime stalemates, heatmaps, and roaming incentives

[wonshot]

Im still convinced that warband format is bad for this game. Non prime prime time its just one blob midlesly pushing lesser into warcamp and taking empty keeps. Boring and stupid gameplay. Just becouse pug see only way to "play" it - join pug blob wb.

Counter argument:
Eden private server of Dark Age of Camelot. The groupsize is 8, and casual players are still forming 100+ man zergs sitting on the same discord. Over there people were talking about removing the Battlegroup feating which is nothing more than a chat channel.
The main Dev input in season3 that made more players split up and spread out doing group content, was them adding more points of interest encounters for players to stop mindlessly roaming around looking for actions on travel paths, and now instead groups stop and fight eachother over the point of interest. Not because they really want the Poi but because its a natural way of finding enemies when you see it flagged on the map.

And the zergs, well they still sit in their 100 man discords. Because after all its a keep-take campaign gamemode in RvR.

What RoR could learn from that, is actually make the BOs be worth going to. Not for progression, but to find players down there. Showing how many players are on a flag, will lead leaders decite if they want to go there. Example Manor BO in praag is burning, guard npcs are killed and informs destro that 24 order is down there. Now any destro warband who wants to fight, will probably head to the BO for a fight. Now if more warbands go to BOs and the enemy realm knows the intell the action could spread out over the whole map, and not just be closest distance between spawnpoints, as taht is currently the best way to find more action per hour for 2-3hour guild warband event.

[Bozzax]

If win condition is hold 5 bo points on the map for x minutes. Furthermore if a lost bo resets a lock timer (pushes the victory back). Blob gets to blob on keep takes anyway.

Then a blob has 2 choices split to win or loose

The 1.3.x system was brilliant sadly BW was op as hell back then making the game not so god.

The solution is tried and tested and is by dar the most successful anti blob system we’ve had. In any MMO even not just WAR

Yes the campaign slowed sown sometimes which I think was the biggest problem as gear was campaign gated. You know what it isn’t anymore

The easiest thing would to test it in 1-2 zones parallel with tje system we have T2-T3 for example

[dasparkylad]

Something to make people stay at BOs so fights occur around them would definitely help, though honestly I feel like a lot of this would require the maps to redesigned which obviously can't happen.

Last night at KV there was an epic fight, lots of back and forth, flanks, taking the walls, it was amazing. That could happen in keeps if just the keeps had been designed bigger. Same with BOs if they were perhaps instead of 1 flag say 3 spread around a larger area designed for skirmishes then it would be amazing and encourage fights at them if you need to say hold the BO to gain points per second or to stop progress resseting every time it changed hands.

But ye, thats all pipe dream stuff that comes from the very original devs not realising the scale of what they were making properly.