Cuz it was paired with a larger nerf on the mara, so net is still to the Lion.Ruin wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:38 pmwhy do you say fake nefr for WL, those 2 skills are 85% of WL AOE, as lion only have 3 aoe skillsAkalukz wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:16 pm So basically, fake nerf to WL aoe (less armor pen to 2 skills) offset by a larger nerf to Mara aoe and single target (all skills requiring mutations)
Good to see that the bias is still there. Was there anything in the patch pro destro?
Patch Notes 18/12/2025
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Re: Patch Notes 18/12/2025
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- Florian90210
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Re: Patch Notes 18/12/2025
What I expected from dps patch:
Slight nerf of lion.
Slight buff to slayer and choppa.
What I got:
nerf to everything but with order bias. SL got buffed rampage, while choppa have to be in red to use furious stomping. Lion still top. mara and choppa ST trees shaked up with zero net results.
Most stupid thing is making SL and choppa even more squshier with 25% debuff on yellow.
Slight nerf of lion.
Slight buff to slayer and choppa.
What I got:
nerf to everything but with order bias. SL got buffed rampage, while choppa have to be in red to use furious stomping. Lion still top. mara and choppa ST trees shaked up with zero net results.
Most stupid thing is making SL and choppa even more squshier with 25% debuff on yellow.
Re: Patch Notes 18/12/2025
To be honest, there are some good ideas, but also some absurd choices that really should be explained. Why a 25% armor debuff on a yellow skill? Why a debuff to basic ability damage? And I’m only talking about the Slayer here. Some additional explanations would definitely be necessary.Florian90210 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 1:20 pm What I expected from dps patch:
Slight nerf of lion.
Slight buff to slayer and choppa.
What I got:
nerf to everything but with order bias. SL got buffed rampage, while choppa have to be in red to use furious stomping. Lion still top. mara and choppa ST trees shaked up with zero net results.
Most stupid thing is making SL and choppa even more squshier with 25% debuff on yellow.
Re: Patch Notes 18/12/2025
would love to hear the thought process behind the armor pen nerf Lion to Mara comp
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- agemennon675
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Re: Patch Notes 18/12/2025
Since WE can proc their kisses from everything while WH can only proc it from their finishers this range change for their mirror finisher looks fair imo.
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Order: 40-SW / 40-SM / 40-WP / 40-WL / 39-Kotbs / 38-BW / 33-AM / 22-WH / 16-RP / 12-Slayer
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Re: Patch Notes 18/12/2025
What problem does the patch solve?
It is as a rotation around, not a movement anywhere.
As a major point: Dps are still cant kill healers.
It seems changes for the sake of changes.
It is as a rotation around, not a movement anywhere.
As a major point: Dps are still cant kill healers.
It seems changes for the sake of changes.
Re: Patch Notes 18/12/2025
I must say that these are underwhelming changes.
Whilst i generally like them, especially the nerf to WH/WE magic immunity, addition of spammable aoe to both of them, and both return of improved rampage for SLs (shorties deserved some love) & reasonable nerfs to WLs - I must say that after almost a year of waiting these changes are hella underwhelming.
Anyhow, it is what it is, and I like what I see despite expecting more "scale"
Thanks guys, the RoR dev team!
Whilst i generally like them, especially the nerf to WH/WE magic immunity, addition of spammable aoe to both of them, and both return of improved rampage for SLs (shorties deserved some love) & reasonable nerfs to WLs - I must say that after almost a year of waiting these changes are hella underwhelming.
Anyhow, it is what it is, and I like what I see despite expecting more "scale"
Thanks guys, the RoR dev team!
- amputationsaw
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Re: Patch Notes 18/12/2025
still in the game. if it gets removed completely i dont understand why. SL and many other classes have heal debuff, why take it away from choppa? he only has pure dps with no other purpose. the furious stompin' change also feels really bad. the play style suffered pretty much with this new changes- No More Helpin’ - Removed
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Re: Patch Notes 18/12/2025
What problem was there to solve? DPS not killing healers (which isn't true) is not a problem.Moonbiter wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 2:04 pm What problem does the patch solve?
It is as a rotation around, not a movement anywhere.
As a major point: Dps are still cant kill healers.
It seems changes for the sake of changes.![]()
Re: Patch Notes 18/12/2025
Then pls remeber that Lion is Great weapon user and it got nerf to its AA tactic witch in ST build if we are taling about them is aroud 30% of his dps, then the nerf to pets dps with the pet skill changes and the aplication and stacking of 2 CC/DMG buffs that cant be now precasted for burst. And your assumptios seems not as Accurate.Akalukz wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 1:07 pmCuz it was paired with a larger nerf on the mara, so net is still to the Lion.Ruin wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:38 pmwhy do you say fake nefr for WL, those 2 skills are 85% of WL AOE, as lion only have 3 aoe skillsAkalukz wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 12:16 pm So basically, fake nerf to WL aoe (less armor pen to 2 skills) offset by a larger nerf to Mara aoe and single target (all skills requiring mutations)
Good to see that the bias is still there. Was there anything in the patch pro destro?
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