Destro tank

[Bluntski]

waronlinebuilder.org - Black Guard build

This was my solo/SC build.

Crimson death is not bad at all with an assist train, that's just foolish.

[Penril]

waronlinebuilder.org - Black Guard build

This was my solo/SC build.

Crimson death is not bad at all with an assist train, that's just foolish.

Yeah that's the cookie cutter 2H DPS spec. Some people replaced Rugged with UF (instead of that extra point in Malice). Felt kinda squishy to me though, and i doubt Rugged made that much of a difference. But CD hit like a truck.

[Bluntski]

You just need some sexy pocket heals. You're right, I definitely had UF and swapped it in and out with a tact set. Can't believe I was able to dig this up:
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[Coryphaus]

Enraged beating isn't a bad ability at all especially if used after a filled with fury proc where it basically becomes bgs tree hit combo

Chocking fury is pointless late game due to the addition of ap regen pots that make such abilities pointless since ap becomes a non issue

And last I remember CD does not inc your chance to crit a target only that other not you will crit it, similar to that one kotbs grp tactic

In any type of grp no one would want 2h tank when they've already got 2 mdps cause of how squishy you are with out a shield and how bad of a guard you are

Solo, rdps will tear you up.

You can play whatever way you want and be suboptimal if you wish but you can't pretend that playing 2h off tank dosnt fall off in effectiveness past t2

[Penril]

Enraged beating isn't a bad ability at all especially if used after a filled with fury proc where it basically becomes bgs tree hit combo

The thing that makes THC awesome is that it costs no AP. Abuse EB and you will run out of AP quickly, even with AP pots and DbH.

Also, channeled attacks mean you don't auto attack. That's the reason Maras don't even have Convulsive Slashing in their action bars in T4.

Chocking fury is pointless late game due to the addition of ap regen pots that make such abilities pointless since ap becomes a non issue

AP pots have a CD. Choking Fury is spammable. Specially useful against RPs since they can't cleanse it; useless against WPs.

And last I remember CD does not inc your chance to crit a target only that other not you will crit it, similar to that one kotbs grp tactic

CD doesn't increase your chance to crit (or anyone in your group). It makes those you hit have 10% more chance to be crit. So yeah, you also benefit from it.

In any type of grp no one would want 2h tank when they've already got 2 mdps cause of how squishy you are with out a shield and how bad of a guard you are

Solo, rdps will tear you up.

You can play whatever way you want and be suboptimal if you wish but you can't pretend that playing 2h off tank dosnt fall off in effectiveness past t2

Yes, SnB>2H. I have said so myself in other threads. But sometimes it is fun to go lolDPS and get numbers similars to that post above. Against pugs and bad players you can spec however you want anyway, and getting so many DBs is definitely fun.

Even in that spec, he can still be super tanky by swapping to defensive gear/tactics and using a shield. He will be able to use SS (5 sec KD) since it is a core skill. He will only be missing CD. I like that spec.

[Coryphaus]

I've never had issues with ap even with enraged beating maybe I was just good with management

Even then worst comes to worst you have attacks that only need hate

Ok so it be benefits you but CD still has a paltry 5s duration

Ap pots have a cd but I'm talking about those pots that inc the rate at which you regen ap

That made abilities like choking fury and choppas ap exhaust pointless to spec in late game.

Sure you can go stomp some bads but against equally skiiled, geared rr players and that's why I say that off classing is just plain bad late game

[Azarael]

Ap pots have a cd but I'm talking about those pots that inc the rate at which you regen ap

That made abilities like choking fury and choppas ap exhaust pointless to spec in late game.

Yup. Passives should never make actives worthless choices.

[Coryphaus]

Awesome! I'm really glad you feel that way, I started to worry when you guys enabled the health pot and ap pot but now I can go with some confidence that if you guys change how those potions work work then defiantly these abilities will become viable again in the late game