I do honestly not have any issues with a glass cannon WE, they're supposed to be deadly but looking at those numbers Sacrificial stab seems a bit overtuned idk. Agonizing wounds+ feinted position need a fix as well. Otherwise i'm fine with glass cannon WE.
In this case it appears you did a few mistakes, always detaunt before a pot, counter with a KD of your own.
The real imbalance with the WE is Sacrifices rewarded def WB lifesteal build, with the new patch adding absurd things like 2 x pounce etc.
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Re: WElf Nerf
Brutal Pounce is castable when you are knocked down? Geesh, I'm learning new things every day! Thank you for your valuable lesson, wichlfsan! Much apreciated feedback, much useful.Krima wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2026 5:20 pmNo timestamp to back up your claim of “NO GDC.”DeadWithin wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2026 3:33 pm I can tell you everything wrong with this class in one picture. 2 hits from me, 6 from my pet (one parried), all the time, apart from the 2 hits from me, I'm on the ground, I stand up, drink pot and die immediately. WE do not seem to have GCD. Nobody in their right mind, can tell me this is normal. This is utterly broken, designed by 13-years old. If you believe otherwise, you are a permanent resident of Delulu Land. 7 hits vs. 18 hits in one 3-sec knockdown + 1 sec uptime before and 1 sec uptime after it. CLEARLY skill issue.
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Also, no brutal pounce from you? Seems like you deserve a quick death.
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Most of those attacks are autos and proc'd effects. He only used like 4 or 5 gcd and he actually botched it pretty bad it looks like he had an extra frenzy stack and he hit you with pa first instead of hrt before the knockdown. ES on a WL is weird too, I think the only correct play he made was not leading on heartseeker haha.DeadWithin wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2026 9:18 pmBrutal Pounce is castable when you are knocked down? Geesh, I'm learning new things every day! Thank you for your valuable lesson, wichlfsan! Much apreciated feedback, much useful.Krima wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2026 5:20 pmNo timestamp to back up your claim of “NO GDC.”DeadWithin wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2026 3:33 pm I can tell you everything wrong with this class in one picture. 2 hits from me, 6 from my pet (one parried), all the time, apart from the 2 hits from me, I'm on the ground, I stand up, drink pot and die immediately. WE do not seem to have GCD. Nobody in their right mind, can tell me this is normal. This is utterly broken, designed by 13-years old. If you believe otherwise, you are a permanent resident of Delulu Land. 7 hits vs. 18 hits in one 3-sec knockdown + 1 sec uptime before and 1 sec uptime after it. CLEARLY skill issue.
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Also, no brutal pounce from you? Seems like you deserve a quick death.
The only respectable crit there is the sac stab and last aw. Wonder what rr/skills he has. My crits are usually 18 ish on pa hs and aw and SS is usually closer to 20/ea
Also saw no detaunt from you nor stun (it comes from the lion but I don't remember if you have to be not disabled to command it). Also curious how you melted to not really that high of damage. Might help to know your rr.
Without that info it kinda looks like you just got outplayed man. Or, you're building literally no defense which on a WL is not da way.
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you cant complain about other class being op while playing white lion, wl pull + stun then delete people in nanosecondDeadWithin wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2026 9:18 pmBrutal Pounce is castable when you are knocked down? Geesh, I'm learning new things every day! Thank you for your valuable lesson, wichlfsan! Much apreciated feedback, much useful.Krima wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2026 5:20 pmNo timestamp to back up your claim of “NO GDC.”DeadWithin wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2026 3:33 pm I can tell you everything wrong with this class in one picture. 2 hits from me, 6 from my pet (one parried), all the time, apart from the 2 hits from me, I'm on the ground, I stand up, drink pot and die immediately. WE do not seem to have GCD. Nobody in their right mind, can tell me this is normal. This is utterly broken, designed by 13-years old. If you believe otherwise, you are a permanent resident of Delulu Land. 7 hits vs. 18 hits in one 3-sec knockdown + 1 sec uptime before and 1 sec uptime after it. CLEARLY skill issue.
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Also, no brutal pounce from you? Seems like you deserve a quick death.
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Both truths can exist at the same time, yet whether a WL is OP or not is not an argument against a WE being OP, it’s merely “whataboutism”.tsyuryu wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2026 9:28 pm you cant complain about other class being op while playing white lion, wl pull + stun then delete people in nanosecond
If you feel a WL is OP, please do open a thread about it.
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rorswar wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2026 9:32 pmBoth truths can exist at the same time, yet whether a WL is OP or not is not an argument against a WE being OP, it’s merely “whataboutism”.tsyuryu wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2026 9:28 pm you cant complain about other class being op while playing white lion, wl pull + stun then delete people in nanosecond
If you feel a WL is OP, please do open a thread about it. If you feel a WE is not OP, then provide better arguments than “oh but look over there at the WL!”
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With that poor gameplay from you, my Vanq WE stomps your WL. Show yourself. You had plenty of time to react and think of the best way out after WE pierces armor, the GCD is slow nowadays. ""WE do not seem to have GCD"DeadWithin wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2026 9:18 pmBrutal Pounce is castable when you are knocked down? Geesh, I'm learning new things every day! Thank you for your valuable lesson, wichlfsan! Much apreciated feedback, much useful.Krima wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2026 5:20 pmNo timestamp to back up your claim of “NO GDC.”DeadWithin wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2026 3:33 pm I can tell you everything wrong with this class in one picture. 2 hits from me, 6 from my pet (one parried), all the time, apart from the 2 hits from me, I'm on the ground, I stand up, drink pot and die immediately. WE do not seem to have GCD. Nobody in their right mind, can tell me this is normal. This is utterly broken, designed by 13-years old. If you believe otherwise, you are a permanent resident of Delulu Land. 7 hits vs. 18 hits in one 3-sec knockdown + 1 sec uptime before and 1 sec uptime after it. CLEARLY skill issue.
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Also, no brutal pounce from you? Seems like you deserve a quick death.
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Re: WElf Nerf
The only complaint I have is about the amount of time the WB buff lasts. Maybe make it 20-25 seconds or have it wear off when leaving combat? When WE open with 5 CP WB its not feeling great...but maybe its just me
Everything else is fine. Def builds is hard to fight but it can be worse
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