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shoelessHN
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SC matchmaker is still awful

Post#1 » Fri Jun 19, 2026 10:43 pm

Stop creating sc's that are 4v4, 5v5, then backfilling to 12v12 half way through. Just wait for 12v12 or 18v18. These two weekend scs have been so bad compared to last year.

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Re: SC matchmaker is still awful

Post#2 » Fri Jun 19, 2026 11:38 pm

I have to disagree. Some of the best scenario fights are four v. four. Particularly when neither side has a healer. And the system queuing up earlier makes pops more frequent.

As has been complained about ad nauseum, the issues with scenarios are barriers and guard placement. Scenarios excell when there are mechanics in place that prevent spawn camping.

Those measures are currently lacking. Serpent's passage last weekend is an excellent example. There's no need for a barrier because you spawn on a ship with guards milling about. The barrier just encourages spawn camping which is bad.

Other than that scenarios are gravy. So many different settings and objectives. Spawn camping is literally the only issue.
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shoelessHN
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Post#3 » Sat Jun 20, 2026 1:10 am

Fey wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2026 11:38 pm I have to disagree. Some of the best scenario fights are four v. four. Particularly when neither side has a healer. And the system queuing up earlier makes pops more frequent.

As has been complained about ad nauseum, the issues with scenarios are barriers and guard placement. Scenarios excell when there are mechanics in place that prevent spawn camping.

Those measures are currently lacking. Serpent's passage last weekend is an excellent example. There's no need for a barrier because you spawn on a ship with guards milling about. The barrier just encourages spawn camping which is bad.

Other than that scenarios are gravy. So many different settings and objectives. Spawn camping is literally the only issue.
Ah yeh the scenario filling to 12 at 250 vs 0 pts because it started 4v4 for 3mins is great! Everyone who joins late gets to waste 5 mins, some of the best!

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Post#4 » Sat Jun 20, 2026 2:35 am

4v4 used to suck bc you got renown based on kills. Now you can actually get decent renown from 4v4.

As for backfilling, who cares? Again, you get most renown at the end of the scenario so it's actually a benefit to backfill. In fact, if you fill in with 1 second to go you can make a bunch of renown for nothing.
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Post#5 » Sat Jun 20, 2026 9:27 am

I think the queue works well and is fine.

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Post#6 » Sat Jun 20, 2026 1:08 pm

The queue system seems better on the whole however I personally don’t like scens with more than two full groups.
Had a few with an entire wb on both sides and it really just makes it feel like blobbing in the lakes.

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Post#7 » Sat Jun 20, 2026 6:32 pm

Nothing screams fun like joining a sc that has an active surrender vote going on. Such good design!

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Post#8 » Sat Jun 20, 2026 8:58 pm

Fey wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2026 11:38 pmAs has been complained about ad nauseum, the issues with scenarios are barriers and guard placement. Scenarios excel when there are mechanics in place that prevent spawn camping.

Those measures are currently lacking. Serpent's passage...

I agree. This issue was the topic of the most recent Reckoning Monologues published just two days ago. The next volume will cover points from this thread.



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