Good old WAR

[uriell4ever]

Hi guys,
I would like to thank the DEVs for bringing back something that died and I wished it back ever since...
It is a dream come true and also seeing the progress over the last year is just astonishing.

Now to my feels of the current situation:
I like to play multiple chars because I want to test out what I like most and what I want to play.
Overall T1 is nothing anyone can complain about. When you enter at rank 1 you can still have fun as the rank 11 won't stay long to bother you since they rank up.
But T2 is completely different. I wouldn't mind getting killed by a 21 when I am 12. It happens. But getting 2 shot by a 26 is a whole different story. It takes countless frustrating days of rvr before finally becoming a worthy opponent and being properly able to fight ranks 26 back. SCs are ok, but open RVR is destroyed by the rank difference. I really wish the old rank 21 was back. Many would disagree because they have their ranks 26 all polished and everything. That's fine. But then don't take our old mythic BO system. That is all we have to level up and before anyone says do PVE, kill mobs... no thanks, I believe all MMO players had more than enough of their share of grinding. Guys, BOs were the only thing, glimpse of hope to lower rank players that the "vs 26 rank" frustration is coming to an end. Now forcing us to fight them in the open with the new system doesn't solve anyhing.

I know people complain all the time, and if there is a small thing now and then I hate people for complaining about it. But I feel I speak for every lowbie or multi character player out there who has his big share of ranking up still waiting for him...

[Twyxx]

It took me an hour and a half-ish to go from 23-26 total by solo killing mobs... When people don't want to put in the effort to level their toons I'm very skeptical when they start to talk about the level difference. Those who put in the time to get their toons leveled quicker deserve the advantage it provides.

[uriell4ever]

Warhammer online had a reason that PVP gives exp and renown rank.

[Twyxx]

And by playing this game you should know that people will take time to find other means of gaining XP. Those who choose to do so will gain the advantage because they take the initiative.

[dkabib]

I agree with OP.

26 vs 21 is a bit too much.

[dkabib]

And by playing this game you should know that people will take time to find other means of gaining XP. Those who choose to do so will gain the advantage because they take the initiative.

One thing is to gain an advantage. Other is to simply destroy someone else. That is not fair, and there's a reason it wasn't like that before.

[Twyxx]

That implies that level 26 isn't readily accessible. It's not the fault of the player who chooses to level before going out into the lake, it's that of those who don't want to take the time to level. That's where you get the separation. Also, if you have ~22, 23 gear on, it's not like you're a paper bag. You can still be somewhat competitive.

[uriell4ever]

Twyxx I have 5 more chars I want to try out and NO I don't want to try them out by PVE grinding ranks 12-26. There was a reason you could rank up by doing PVP and it was because that's what people wanted. Current rank system doesn't allow it. So people grinded BOs. Now people can't grind BOs. Should they grind PVE? Sorry, that's not a valid argument.
My opinion is either lower rank back to 21 as original and as a compensation give players that book that will instantly rank you up by 1 rank for every rank lost... or leave the original BO system. Or both.

[Twyxx]

Afaik even grinding it out in the RvR lake isn't that painful if you're Zerg surfing. 150 kill quests, 20k XP, sitting in a scenario even if you do nothing is the chance for a few thousand XP. Kill mobs for an hour a day, be leveled quickly.
Put in the effort.

[Azarael]

Starting to sound like a broken record here.

BOs not giving experience is a bug