Sm/Bo talk only!!!!!

[Joan]

When I finish fixing the remaining memory leaks, I'll be moving the knockdowns to 9pts.

Great news!

[Coryphaus]

When I finish fixing the remaining memory leaks, I'll be moving the knockdowns to 9pts.

Spoiler:

[Kazekiri]

much appreciated thanks for making our career a bit useful, last attempt was... alpha of live I guess

[OldPlayer]

When the problems with the class are already known to the extent that we see "LF KOTBS/IB for premade" in chat, I see no reason to wait until we have everything in the game, which could be years.

When we hit level 40, it'll be "but rr skills"
When we have RR skills, it'll be "but sov!"
When we have Sov, it'll be years after this point.

What about "LF WP/RP, not AM" for premades? Will AMs get similar treatment?

[Azarael]

When we know what needs to be done with them, why not?

[ekimus]

What about allowing sm/bo enchants/bellows to stack more than one at a time like auras?

[Razid1987]

I won't comment because I'm not too familiar with SMs, but only BO suggests:

BO:

- Da Toughest! to a group buff
- Arm Breaka to an AP drain
- Down Ya Go! to 9pts

- Da Toughest as group buff? No. Waaaaaay too strong.
- Arm breaka is useless. If you compare it to the AM/Shaman AP drain, it's garbage. It needs a tremendous buff.
- Down Ya Go! I dun't know tbh. It might make 2hander BOs too strong tbh, because it would free 5 points for them to put in Path of Da Boss or Brawler instead.

What the BO needs more than anything is not more offense or defense. It's more utility. Make it wanted in wbs like Chosens/Knights.

[Coryphaus]

I won't comment because I'm not too familiar with SMs, but only BO suggests:
- Down Ya Go! I dun't know tbh. It might make 2hander BOs too strong tbh, because it would free 5 points for them to put in Path of Da Boss or Brawler instead.

Your literally way too late to comment on this change razid also kotbs and chosen have 9 pt kd what’s wrong with sm’s and blorcs having 9pt kds?
Yes it’s a buff to dps blocs who can now get DYG, GS, NIDF and Tree hit but that’s not a big issue tbt while their grp utility is still weak no one will want them in in 6 mans
BUT, nerfing kotbs/chosen isn’t the solution rather you need t buff their grp synergy to that that blorc/sm can be considered viable alternatives to BG/IB

[Razid1987]

I won't comment because I'm not too familiar with SMs, but only BO suggests:
- Down Ya Go! I dun't know tbh. It might make 2hander BOs too strong tbh, because it would free 5 points for them to put in Path of Da Boss or Brawler instead.

Your literally way too late to comment on this change razid also kotbs and chosen have 9 pt kd what’s wrong with sm’s and blorcs having 9pt kds?
Yes it’s a buff to dps blocs who can now get DYG, GS, NIDF and Tree hit but that’s not a big issue tbt while their grp utility is still weak no one will want them in in 6 mans
BUT, nerfing kotbs/chosen isn’t the solution rather you need t buff their grp synergy to that that blorc/sm can be considered viable alternatives to BG/IB

Yeah I know, but still felt like I wanted to say something. I only realized the date of the post when I had replied. Oh well

[Nanji]

.... no one will want them in in 6 mans
BUT, nerfing kotbs/chosen isn’t the solution rather you need t buff their grp synergy to that that blorc/sm can be considered viable alternatives to BG/IB

The Xioth premade is running with a BO. Successful.
I personally rate BO > chosen atm. At lvl 35 the BO will need a slight buff to be viable. ( for example a leap to a friendly unit)
Until then BO seems just fine.