[POLL] Norsca Lost Lagoon Battlefield Objective

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Poll: Would you like to see the return of the Norsca Lost Lagoon BO?

Yes
15
68%
No
5
23%
Introduce a 4th BO in T1 Empire/Chaos but not in Norsca
2
9%
Total votes: 22

Greatwarden
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Re: Norsca Lost Lagoon Battlefield Objective

Post#11 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:17 am

No thank you. As mentioned above, the position is horribly one-sided.

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Nishka
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Re: Norsca Lost Lagoon Battlefield Objective

Post#12 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 12:32 pm

Greatwarden wrote:No thank you. As mentioned above, the position is horribly one-sided.
The ship BO isn't?
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Karast
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Re: Norsca Lost Lagoon Battlefield Objective

Post#13 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 12:38 pm

Would it be possible to add a map teleport like the skaven tunnels in T2?

Add one north of the BO a bit and then another in the middle or the map.

It might be a way to solve the warcamp problem if it's possible.

bwdaWAR
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Re: Norsca Lost Lagoon Battlefield Objective

Post#14 » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:39 pm

Nishka wrote:
Greatwarden wrote:No thank you. As mentioned above, the position is horribly one-sided.
The ship BO isn't?
No, it is not. Go to Nordland and open the map. The Nordland XI is exactly the same distance from the Chaos warcamp as from the Empire warcamp. The only difference is that Destruction's shortest path is more accessible from the Festenplatz hill than Order's (which is only a problem if it's held by the enemy), due to the terrain, but even that difference is minimal. The lagoon BO on the other hand was far behind the Chaos warcamp. That means it was more than twice the distance from the Empire warcamp than the Chaos warcamp, and in order to avoid taking a huge detour in the water, Order would need to go past both the Festenplatz hill and more importantly, the Chaos warcamp.

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Re: Norsca Lost Lagoon Battlefield Objective

Post#15 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:26 am

I vote yes to ! Becasue destro need to do long travel to go on Nordland Boat and Order have just to move a bit its unfair for destro side so it would be nice release this old BO

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Moondogg
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Re: Norsca Lost Lagoon Battlefield Objective

Post#16 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:04 pm

Karast wrote:Would it be possible to add a map teleport like the skaven tunnels in T2?
There are empire ships in Nordland at 31000, 6100..
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Maybe put a clickable boat like this one to teleport you to the lagoon.
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Tesq
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Re: Norsca Lost Lagoon Battlefield Objective

Post#17 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:04 pm

or creat a stone bridge :D

or something like that so that new nasty space where fight appears :DDD
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Greatwarden
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Re: Norsca Lost Lagoon Battlefield Objective

Post#18 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:47 pm

Nishka wrote:
Greatwarden wrote:No thank you. As mentioned above, the position is horribly one-sided.
The ship BO isn't?
1. At least the ship BO is in the same bloody zone so that genuinely new players actually knows it exists and doesn't need to cross the zone border to make sure that the UI is showing the correct status.

2. At least the most straight-forward route from the Destro warcamp to the Ship BO isn't completely visible to Order sitting in the warcamp. Any Order player trying to get the Lost Lagoon that is hoping not to be seen by someone at the Destro warcamp is in for a bloody long swim.

3. All it takes is a half-hearted surge from the Destro warcamp to cut off the flow of players to the Lost Lagoon. For Order to cut off the ship BO, Order needs to over-extend so far that it might as well take Festenplatz and camp the Destro warcamp.

Let's face it: very very few RVR lakes were designed with 'balance' (or even 'function') in mind. The Lost Lagoon is just one of the more egregious examples of poor design.

(Does everyone remember the suicidal resource Order resource carrier in Reikland or the Griffon flight-path in Black Crag that ends up with the poor creature smearing it's feathered face into a cliff-face/PVE zone and it's rider losing any siege equipment they were carrying? Good times.)

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Moondogg
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Re: Norsca Lost Lagoon Battlefield Objective

Post#19 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:45 pm

Greatwarden wrote:
Nishka wrote:
Greatwarden wrote:No thank you. As mentioned above, the position is horribly one-sided.
The ship BO isn't?
3. All it takes is a half-hearted surge from the Destro warcamp to cut off the flow of players to the Lost Lagoon. For Order to cut off the ship BO, Order needs to over-extend so far that it might as well take Festenplatz and camp the Destro warcamp.
Order can do the same thing with the Nordland XI BO that Destro can do with The Lost Lagoon BO.
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Re: Norsca Lost Lagoon Battlefield Objective

Post#20 » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:09 am

Yes, if possible!!
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