Lower WL burst by 30-40%.

[Sever1n]

So you dont have any proofs. Nice topic

[Everdin]

People may post wtf they want. Show us actual proofs of this. Like video wl bursting down bis armored heal.

Since WL players themselves saying that they can kill def specced toons with a burst apparently isn't enough for you, feel free to look at killboard, and at the WL kills and numbers.

Where? No idea who Farrul is, could be you with a second account!!!!!

[Ashoris]

With all due respect, wl is a strong burster, but the claims you make are just wrong, a good wl can burst down every bad dps without knowledge or spend anything in defense.

A def/regn speced enemy dps or not will give the wl a fight, and depending on skill win or lose the fight.

It is interesting how in the very same post by Farrul which I quoted he says how he can kill most def specced dps on his wL, and yet once it comes to balancing the broken class, suddenly it changes to "a def/regn speced enemy dps or not will give the wl a fight". Anything to defend a broken class?

And it is amazing how you consider suggestions to nerf destro morals which are less effective than many non moral abilities as just fine, but once there is a suggestion to balance an OP broken class which has a free hand harassing a large part of destro population, is a tinfoil hat and "counter strike".

This here shows the real issue,
1) WL is a class with a really HIGH Floor (easy to play) but moderate in the upper Tiers of playing
2) mentioning AP pots while forgetting that this is a full GCD lost for dmg
3) thinking shaman m1 is weak

You play on different levels .... in your style of play/bracket WL is too strong and shaman m1 is weak (kiting does not matter ? ) , It may be different for other people

i dont know how Farruls Lion is called ... but killing 90% of the ppl here on the server has often more to do with the Player than the class.

[Nelly74]

The white lion has been way too powerful for a long time now. Fortunately, the pet was programmed terribly because this class is just ridiculously easy and has instant burst potential. And to think that the classes with a lot of weapon skills were the ones that got nerfed... so logical!

[Speedyluck]

hes right tho, just becos the pet is broken doesnt mean its not OP.

[Zxul]

Find nothing about him writing about HIS lion, but I have a squig with decent equip, can i make tome complains too just because I have a class?

Until now I thought i know something about lions, but never thought I need gear and ap pots to kill something...

The tools you need to counter the pet is keyboard/mouse, more game specific snare, cc or just the ability to kill it within few seconds.

No idea where you find me saying to nerf a morale, all i said was it is not true that shaman m1 is weak

Regarding the whole herassing part:

Many order leaving the game cause of zealots, please nerf zealots!

Plz show me how to counter the pet with keyboard/mouse. Plz link a video of how it can be done, I'm sure a very large number of destro cloth wearers will love to learn from that video. And most cloth wearers don't have the snares or cc of wls/sws, not to mention ability to kill a pet in a few seconds- specially while being beat by the pet and the WL with ridiculous OP dmg.

Sounds like l2p issue

More of "its not the class that can burst down def toon in a kd while also having a ridiculous mobility that is broken, its l2p issue".

Where? No idea who Farrul is, could be you with a second account!!!!!

Lol. And now it went from accusing me of trolling, to me having a second account with 415 posts. Anything else that you can came up with, to protect the broken OP class?

This here shows the real issue,
1) WL is a class with a really HIGH Floor (easy to play) but moderate in the upper Tiers of playing
2) mentioning AP pots while forgetting that this is a full GCD lost for dmg
3) thinking shaman m1 is weak

You play on different levels .... in your style of play/bracket WL is too strong and shaman m1 is weak (kiting does not matter ? ) , It may be different for other people

i dont know how Farruls Lion is called ... but killing 90% of the ppl here on the server has often more to do with the Player than the class.

It is interesting how every other class needing ap uses ap pots just fine. Despite the lost gcds.

And of cause "killing 90% of the ppl here on the server has often more to do with the Player than the class". Why not, how about you log on say choppa or mara, and show how do you kill 90% of the people on the server? Preferably within a kd, and while also having ridiculous mobility which I don't remember on choppa or mara.

[Akalukz]

The answer is obvious. Nerf Magus

[Adelmar]

The answer is obvious. Nerf Magus

Agree!

[Aethilmar]

I'm going to take the OP way too seriously here for a second. I went and read the link posted by the OP. It has almost nothing to do with the topic other than apparently a BiS WL can burst down most WE and SH. I'm assuming this is solo.

So, my question is, what should a WL be good at killing? What should they be bad at killing? How many WL should it take to kill something that is guarded? That is healed? That is guarded and healed?

I am asking because I see these complaints on both sides about various classes and I ask the above questions (for each class) and never get a good answer. I expect the same here but worth a shot.

[Culexus]

No. Boost other classes to the level of WL. Same goes for all the top classes.

People complaining about everything being nerfed, then in the same breath asking for nerfs.

Everyone wants to feel like their class is powerful. For all the faults of live, it did this well.