Realm Champions not needed, we need Time Zone Champions

[Meliannia]

1. "Hey want to play soccer this weekend."

2. "Nah sorry I can't, we can only play for our own team, it's a rule. I guess no soccer this weekend."

3. "What you talkin bout, bro? We'll just boot the 2 or 3 no loyalty selfish bad guys who want to switch sides during the game and ruin the game, then all the other regulars players can carry on and have their game. Win or lose be loyal to their team."

[pvprangergod]

1. "Hey want to play soccer this weekend."

2. "Nah sorry I can't, we can only play for our own team, it's a rule. I guess no soccer this weekend."

3. "What you talkin bout, bro? We'll just boot the 2 or 3 no loyalty selfish bad guys who want to switch sides during the game and ruin the game, then all the other regulars players can carry on and have their game. Win or lose be loyal to their team."

4. no1 cares

[Akilinus]

Add Realm Pride MMR to the game so that the hard working priders can get some recognition.

[Runiz]

3. "What you talkin bout, bro? We'll just boot the 2 or 3 no loyalty selfish bad guys who want to switch sides during the game and ruin the game, then all the other regulars players can carry on and have their game. Win or lose be loyal to their team."

You're delusional, man. Why does this guy still have forum access when hes just spouting incoherent opinions and made up statistics?

[Meliannia]

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4. no1 cares

18 forum pages (including replies you yourself have even contributed....) and a survey for all players from the devs would suggest otherwise...?

[Meliannia]

You're delusional, man. Why does this guy still have forum access when hes just spouting incoherent opinions and made up statistics?

I could say the exact same about you? but i wont
because unlike you i understand people have different views and are free to air them, and the devs/forum mods understand that too. It's called freedom of speech and democracy. Inconvenient things they are to you but millions of young lads died a while back fighting for them. it's rather fundamental and important. So maybe think about this next time you try to get someone silenced who just disagrees with you on an hot topic or contentious issue.

"When you try to silence a man, it is not because he is wrong. it is because you fear the truths he will tell the world." - George Orwell.

'When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.' - George R.R Martin

[Uchoo]

I can understand the concern for that but I'm telling you, that rarely, rarely happens. I've only heard of this happening ever twice, the guy did it just to keep the zone at a stalemate for the memes. I don't know anyone, especially among "the elite" who swap to the winning side just to cruise pvdoor. Maybe it happens, I don't know, but I do know and talk/play daily with over 90% of what people probably consider "the elite".

Does this actually create a problem? I can't see it because I know what these people do and it's just not what you say. If I'm active in RvR, I know what all of these people are doing because I can just look at their discords, I see their groups in RvR. They work to be a solution to the zerg, the only times that they don't are if they are gearing characters on a side and are forced to ride the zerg.

Anyway, a 1-day lockout is an absolutely devastating change to the game from every situation I can imagine. If population in a zone is going to be a concern after 10 years, fine, find an actual solution please.

Inb4 more soccer memes.

[Xergon]

we know this, we know this is how xrealming was how it was meant to be. This whole thread is because this is not how it being done, it's being daily abused by a hardcore minority, a minority controlling 20 to 40 followers.

we are talking a hardcore minority of 2 or 3 who drag 20 to 40 subservient followers like hypnotized cultists to the strongest side to make it even worse for the weaker side and also annoy the hell out of the stronger side too. This has to end.

Even if you are right, which is weird to me because 20 to 40 shouldn't be hard to deal with, you want to make the server worse for every single player with a 24 hour lockout to fix it?

One faction/side per game it's the main rule of any game since ancient times
By asking for an option to change the faction at will, it's like not respecting the rules or one implies that the rules should not exist in the first place. It's like asking a referee that you, a soccer player, you want to play in both teams at the same time.
Without rules, there is no game to be played.
Also, X-realming cuts from the game's immersion, everyone is everyone, why even play against Destro since Destro are Order players and vice-versa?
Trust me, this option does not exist in any other official game because it's flawed and illogical in the first place.

What an irrelevant comparison is this ? So nothing matters to you, not good gameplay experience, not proper fights, any kinda balance do not matter because RULE SAYS PLAY ONE SIDE... This is not real life, its a video game that suppose to be fun whenever its possible. As i said before if we had 10k or more population then you could do different shards of server and split population accordingly on those shards, but thats not the case, so we should try to find solution to balance in any possible way.

The don't make a contract with their blood for one team?

They go where the rewards are better...oh no...this soccer argument doesn't work as expected...

Yea, imagine soccer players changing sides during a match on the winning side and generating ''a zerg'' just because it's possible.

If you wanna stick to this completely irrelevant comparison...
Yes, they cant swap during match as players cannot swap during combat or even 90mins of when they step into pvp zone (right now). But football players can swap teams during season which you can compare to rvr campaign... So yea not only your comparison is irrelevant but its also bad to support your own argument...

How about enforcing limiting population in RvR maps like in Forts, that would me much smarter way to try balance population inside RvR zones, but to do this way you would need to have all pairings open all the time, which means rework of how Fortress win matters for campaign push into City.

[Runiz]

I could say the exact same about you? but i wont
because unlike you i understand people have different views and are free to air them, and the devs/forum mods understand that too. It's called freedom of speech and democracy. Inconvenient things they are to you but millions of young lads died a while back fighting for them. it's rather fundamental and important. So maybe think about this next time you try to get someone silenced who just disagrees with you on an hot topic or contentious issue.

"When you try to silence a man, it is not because he is wrong. it is because you fear the truths he will tell the world." - George Orwell.

'When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.' - George R.R Martin

Lmao, yes, I fear the truths you will bring to light. You caught me.
No, its because you:
1) Blatantly make up statistics to back up your incredible claims.
2) You see conspiracies everywhere and will share them both here and in-game, even if people tell you to stop.
3) Provide **** input into most talks of balance and rvr, seeing as you have very limited insight in both.

And no, no war have been fought to give you the chance to spout useless drivel on the internet.
Theres some serious delusions of grandeur when you bring those kinds of quotes into this. We're talking about the ability to play both sides in a dead video game. Get over yourself.

[Martok]

I felt like responding, so:

...I understand people have different views and are free to air them...

True. Cite any issue associated with the server and opinions concerning it will be as varied as the player-base itself. I believe that premise constituted the original intent of the Realm Champion program, to create a group designed and dedicated to filtering through those primal opinions and identifying which might be worthy of attention, thus representing the player-base at large. The fatal flaw of the Realm Champion program is those selected, as a general rule, quickly decide they could give a crap less about the player-base at large and choose only to represent themselves because, you know, plebs.

...and the devs/forum mods understand that too.

Yeah they understand it however given this is their playground we, appropriately so, must conform to certain restrictions governing what can and/or can not be discussed. And that is how it should be.

It's called freedom of speech and democracy.

The Right to Freedom of Speech is not ultimate, and can, under certain conditions, be restricted. If those who run the server levy a rule forbidding the discussion of politics, religion, and the open criticism of public figures via in-game chat, they are perfectly free to do so. And have. Good for them. As to your second point, neither the Government of the United States nor the Return of Reckoning server are true Democracies. They are Representative Republics, an ideal which again the original intent of the Realm Champion program was meant to extol. However as with any Representative Republic those selected to represent tend to quickly lose sight of that original intent.

So maybe think about this next time you try to get someone silenced who just disagrees with you on an hot topic or contentious issue.

Buuuuuuuuuuut...that is the world we currently live in. Unfortunately. In society at large and here it is so insanely easy to trigger the small-minded. Just make a joke about AOC and watch what happens.

In addition:

This is not real life, its a video game that suppose to be fun whenever its possible.

I agree with Xergon's assertion. And the two points are not mutually exclusive.