New Ability Patch : Low Level Experience is pretty bad

[Caleb]

Just some feedback from my point of view as a low level player since the new Ability Patch started :

Leveling as a brand new character now is while not impossibly hard, it is quite a miserable experience with every monster having abilities. Normal monsters are still fine and don't get me wrong, them having abilities is AMAZING, really love to see the world alive - it's great!

But even the previously easiest Public Quests and Champions you could solo are not almost impossible even in a group of 2 with a Warrior Priest and a Tank in Nordland for example - this was with a Normal Public Quest.

[Everdin]

Just some feedback from my point of view as a low level player since the new Ability Patch started :

Leveling as a brand new character now is while not impossibly hard, it is quite a miserable experience with every monster having abilities. Normal monsters are still fine and don't get me wrong, them having abilities is AMAZING, really love to see the world alive - it's great!

But even the previously easiest Public Quests and Champions you could solo are not almost impossible even in a group of 2 with a Warrior Priest and a Tank in Nordland for example - this was with a Normal Public Quest.

Afaik, normal pq were not meant to be for solo/duo

[Ninjagon]

But it was fun to complete these as solo. I have to check it out if it's significantly harder now.

[Unionofchaos]

Man it was like that on vanilla, maybe some abilities are overtuned but RoR never focused on PVE things or a little.Keep in mind you played all the way against dummies mobs before the patch....

[Jayill69]

Yea, not meant to be soloed is trumped by not enough people around to help. So, for a new player, pve leveling just to get enough levels or gear to step into Tier 1 RVR is just an exercise in frustration, which may drive them away. I ran into this problem firsthand and decided that the game was not worth my time compared to what it was like before. Then, after you top out of T1 RVR and T2-T3 is dead, some like to do a little PVE to get up to T4. However, forget the PQ's because there are still not enough people around to help. I can understand wanting to funnel people to RVR instead of PVE, but then you are only attracting one type of player. If that's your goal, then your population dwindles over time to just those who have been there, been through it, and now enjoy end game content. As they leave, over time, you are left with no one.

[Caleb]

It's not about whether it was like that on Live or Not - it's about player experience.

Unless some miracle happens, there never will be 6-8 people to do Public Quests with, but the content itself should still be accessible to the active playerbase - which is why the previous "dummy" system worked well.

The new abilities are amazing, but eventually will have to be tuned for the low population that RoR has.

Maybe not everyone cares about what the PvE Experience is for a new player - but it certainly will affect if new player stay on the server or not, and if you enjoy playing this game - then it is in everyone's best interest that as many new player stay as possible.

And like the poster above said - not everyone wants to only RvR to 40, but more importantly, RvR isn't always active or balanced, nor are SCs always popping so if there is no alternative you just can't play the game.

[Unionofchaos]

It's not about whether it was like that on Live or Not - it's about player experience.

Unless some miracle happens, there never will be 6-8 people to do Public Quests with, but the content itself should still be accessible to the active playerbase - which is why the previous "dummy" system worked well.

The new abilities are amazing, but eventually will have to be tuned for the low population that RoR has.

Maybe not everyone cares about what the PvE Experience is for a new player - but it certainly will affect if new player stay on the server or not, and if you enjoy playing this game - then it is in everyone's best interest that as many new player stay as possible.

And like the poster above said - not everyone wants to only RvR to 40, but more importantly, RvR isn't always active or balanced, nor are SCs always popping so if there is no alternative you just can't play the game.

People like everything that easy nowadays everyone played on a broken pve server before this patch there is nothing to find now mobs working as intended and you have now to be more careful or you will die. Nothing difficult.

[Caleb]

It's not about whether it was like that on Live or Not - it's about player experience.

Unless some miracle happens, there never will be 6-8 people to do Public Quests with, but the content itself should still be accessible to the active playerbase - which is why the previous "dummy" system worked well.

The new abilities are amazing, but eventually will have to be tuned for the low population that RoR has.

Maybe not everyone cares about what the PvE Experience is for a new player - but it certainly will affect if new player stay on the server or not, and if you enjoy playing this game - then it is in everyone's best interest that as many new player stay as possible.

And like the poster above said - not everyone wants to only RvR to 40, but more importantly, RvR isn't always active or balanced, nor are SCs always popping so if there is no alternative you just can't play the game.

People like everything that easy nowadays everyone played on a broken pve server before this patch there is nothing to find now mobs working as intended and you have now to be more careful or you will die. Nothing difficult.

Has nothing to do with easy / hard or if it was broken before, don't act superior. The current state is not compatible with the server's playerbase.

A Warrior Priest Healer and a Sword and Shield Tank can't duo down an Easy Public Quest Hero - having a duo like that in PvE is already non-feasable for 99% of new players or any players for that matter in a Tier 1 Zone, and it's still not enough.

No it's not difficult. It's impossible to do these PQs now.

[grim78]

Just started a new character (introduced the game to a player) to play with my friend, and had a blast fighter the new champions with actual abilities. We duoed normal PQ without difficulty (albeit 1-2 levels lower than us), but I thought the Champions had a tad too many hit points, but then again, normal PQ is not meant for two (healer and two-hander tank).

Overall, I had a very pleasant experience from lvl 5-11 (levels after ability patch)

[Unionofchaos]

It's not about whether it was like that on Live or Not - it's about player experience.

Unless some miracle happens, there never will be 6-8 people to do Public Quests with, but the content itself should still be accessible to the active playerbase - which is why the previous "dummy" system worked well.

The new abilities are amazing, but eventually will have to be tuned for the low population that RoR has.

Maybe not everyone cares about what the PvE Experience is for a new player - but it certainly will affect if new player stay on the server or not, and if you enjoy playing this game - then it is in everyone's best interest that as many new player stay as possible.

And like the poster above said - not everyone wants to only RvR to 40, but more importantly, RvR isn't always active or balanced, nor are SCs always popping so if there is no alternative you just can't play the game.

People like everything that easy nowadays everyone played on a broken pve server before this patch there is nothing to find now mobs working as intended and you have now to be more careful or you will die. Nothing difficult.

Please keep your uneducated comments to yourself if you have zero first-hand experience with the post-patch state of the game.

A Warrior Priest Healer and a Sword and Shield Tank can't duo down an Easy Public Quest Hero - having a duo like that in PvE is already non-feasable for 99% of new players or any players for that matter in a Tier 1 Zone, and it's still not enough.

No it's not difficult. It's impossible to do these PQs now.

1 Tank and a WP cant duo a Hero now... You think it is not normal? Really a hero is intended to be killed by more than 2 players even at same lvl you have 0 dmg output as a tank and you have 0 dps in your setup. So i dont find any problem about your misadventure whit this hero...