[Knight] parry proc/tactic

[Alubert]

I tested the Coordination tactic yesterday.
It is a tactic so it should add with weapon/sove/trui/vanq proc but it doesn't (I tested on sove/vanq, trui I don't have yet).
This is shown by statdoll and getstats.
I also did a test on BG and there the tactic adds to weapon/sove/trui/vanq proc.
I would like to know if this is a bug or is it supposed to be like this?
I'm a bit surprised if it's intentional because Knight block skill (10%) adds to sove/trui/vanq proc and it shouldn't because it's a skill and not a tactic. Chosen parry skill dont stack with weapon/sove/trui/vanq proc.

[leftayparxoun]

"Coordination" is a tactic that enhances an ability (the one providing the parry% buff is the ability).
This is different from other tactics that directly buff you such as Blackguard's "Anger Drives Me". As such, it does not stack with other similar sources of parry% buffs such as from abilities, pots/linis, procs and other Tactics that enhance abilities.

I go into it in more detail in this thread:
viewtopic.php?t=54424&start=10#p565593

[Alubert]

"Coordination" is a tactic that enhances an ability (the one providing the parry% buff is the ability).
This is different from other tactics that directly buff you such as Blackguard's "Anger Drives Me". As such, it does not stack with other similar sources of parry% buffs such as from abilities, pots/linis, procs and other Tactics that enhance abilities.

I go into it in more detail in this thread:
viewtopic.php?t=54424&start=10#p565593

I understand and thanks for the explanation.
Just why then does the Knight skill Shield Rush stacks with everything?

[leftayparxoun]

I understand and thanks for the explanation.
Just why then does the Knight skill Shield Rush stacks with everything?

Shield Rush shouldn't stack with the Vanq/Sov procs (that provide block%). If it does, it should be bug reported to either be fixed (if it's not intended) or for its tooltip to be updated with a clarification for the exception (if it is intended).

Will test it myself later when I find the time.

[Alubert]

I tested Shield Rush and it stacks with armor proc.
This is shown by statdoll and getstats.
Thank you for clarifying my doubts.

[gersy]

Shield Rush should not stack with Reactionary as far as block is concerned, because both are considered abilities (set and weapon proc buffs are counted as abilities in RoR), but you should get the dodge/disrupt/parry still.

Coordination should work the same way. I tested recently Coordination + Sov 7pc proc and it was working as intended - parry doesn't stack, Coordination overrides, but you still get the other avoidance bonuses.

Same function as Reactionary and Suppression on chosen due to both being buffs and buffs count as abilities. The only way that tactic and buffs should stack would be if the tactic is a flat increase and not tied to a buff like Coordination is.

In the case of Black Orc if you are looking at a tactic like Guud at Big Choppin! this is a flat % increase not tied to an ability/buff so it stacks just fine with procs from weapons/gear.

[Alubert]

So Shield Rush stack is a bug.

[nocturnalguest]

inb4 coordination did stack for kotbs with reactionary. nice if fixed