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Renork
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Half XP & /Rested Off

Post#1 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:46 am

Since most agree that /xp off is not good for the game. Would you consider adding any of the following?


1) /half xp = slows your xp gain by 50%


2) /rested decline or off = Not sure why this was implemented, it's not like leveling is slow. You simply grab t1/t2/t3 kill quests and queue for sc's or participate in orvr. I could understand adding this once the cap is raised to 40, but generally speaking... 1-31 isn't too slow. Or give us the chance to disable it until level 22 is reached? Please?

3) Increase influence gain in t1 from bo's by 100-150% for elf/dark elf and dwarf/greenie zones. Why? Those zones are dead. Everyone goes to Emp/Chaos to have orgies over at Fest. Possibly make lair gear tradable again? This may encourage people to come over to those zones more often.

4) Increase Influence gain in t2 by 50% in all zones.




This is a suggestions forum, NO need to launch personal attacks. If you DO NOT like the suggestions above, then simply state the reasoning behind your post. I'll start..


T3 is fun, but orvr has become quite boring. There are plenty of classes that do not shine until 40 and are rather crappy at this level. I don't believe balance changes should be implemented at this time (minus festerbomb, 1 shotting people is NEVER good for any game).

T1-T2 is full of random warbands, pugs, and is generally more fun. Why? In t3 you basically have to group up with your guildies because MOST of the time you will be facing premades in scenarios. I have nothing against premades (I used to be a riftbot for years), but pug vs. pug fights are also very fun and t1-t2 provides this experience. New or rusty players enjoy fighting other new/rusty players versus fighting coordinated players who will obliterate them in seconds.

I believe implementing a debolster system is very time consuming for our devs. The above suggestions could be implemented much much quicker (correct me if I'm wrong though).


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Shadowgurke
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Re: Half XP & /Rested Off

Post#2 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:01 am

I agree that something is off in T3 orvr, but I think the focus should be on making T3 enjoyable rather than adding ways for characters to not hit T3 or delay them hitting T3. Unless you think that there is no way to fix the current issue with T3.
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Re: Half XP & /Rested Off

Post#3 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:16 am

Shadowgurke wrote:I agree that something is off in T3 orvr, but I think the focus should be on making T3 enjoyable rather than adding ways for characters to not hit T3 or delay them hitting T3. Unless you think that there is no way to fix the current issue with T3.

Well, endgame wasn't 31/rr40. So, that's probably the main reason why t3 gets stale and boring after a while. I don't think there's really anything to fix in t3.

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Re: Half XP & /Rested Off

Post#4 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:18 pm

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Re: Half XP & /Rested Off

Post#5 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:25 pm

It's not my call, but as a player, I would not be opposed to this.

The problem with a hard stop on leveling is that it allows people to twink by spending an unlimited amount of time in a tier collecting BiS gear. Slowing the leveling process might give more time to acquire better gear, but not so much that one becomes a twink.

As a side effect though, there would probably have to be a RR cap too then, to stop a situation where a person might have slowed their leveling so much that they are, say, 15/40. Otherwise this becomes just as imbalanced as gear disparities.

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Re: Half XP & /Rested Off

Post#6 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:32 pm

Anything that slows down people getting to endgame brackets is helpful for twinking so I do not like this suggestion.
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Renork
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Re: Half XP & /Rested Off

Post#7 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:33 pm

Genisaurus wrote:It's not my call, but as a player, I would not be opposed to this.

The problem with a hard stop on leveling is that it allows people to twink by spending an unlimited amount of time in a tier collecting BiS gear. Slowing the leveling process might give more time to acquire better gear, but not so much that one becomes a twink.

As a side effect though, there would probably have to be a RR cap too then, to stop a situation where a person might have slowed their leveling so much that they are, say, 15/40. Otherwise this becomes just as imbalanced as gear disparities.
That would be fine. I mean once you hit 31/40 there's not much to do anyways so people will naturally jump on their Alts. It's always nice being able to help in t2 defense. To the above poster, are you serious? I want to believe most of you are intelligent human beings but comments like yours make me lose faith in humanity. If there's no /do off there's no twinking, the end.

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Re: Half XP & /Rested Off

Post#8 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:34 pm

Renork wrote:Since most agree that /xp off is not good for the game. Would you consider adding any of the following?


1) /half xp = slows your xp gain by 50%


2) /rested decline or off = Not sure why this was implemented, it's not like leveling is slow. You simply grab t1/t2/t3 kill quests and queue for sc's or participate in orvr. I could understand adding this once the cap is raised to 40, but generally speaking... 1-31 isn't too slow. Or give us the chance to disable it until level 22 is reached? Please?

3) Increase influence gain in t1 from bo's by 100-150% for elf/dark elf and dwarf/greenie zones. Why? Those zones are dead. Everyone goes to Emp/Chaos to have orgies over at Fest. Possibly make lair gear tradable again? This may encourage people to come over to those zones more often.

4) Increase Influence gain in t2 by 50% in all zones.




This is a suggestions forum, NO need to launch personal attacks. If you DO NOT like the suggestions above, then simply state the reasoning behind your post. I'll start..


T3 is fun, but orvr has become quite boring. There are plenty of classes that do not shine until 40 and are rather crappy at this level. I don't believe balance changes should be implemented at this time (minus festerbomb, 1 shotting people is NEVER good for any game).

T1-T2 is full of random warbands, pugs, and is generally more fun. Why? In t3 you basically have to group up with your guildies because MOST of the time you will be facing premades in scenarios. I have nothing against premades (I used to be a riftbot for years), but pug vs. pug fights are also very fun and t1-t2 provides this experience. New or rusty players enjoy fighting other new/rusty players versus fighting coordinated players who will obliterate them in seconds.

I believe implementing a debolster system is very time consuming for our devs. The above suggestions could be implemented much much quicker (correct me if I'm wrong though).


Feedback?
1) I don't think it's needed jut my opinion. T1 Is suppose to be enjoyable and go some what quick. You can always create an alt.

2) Rested XP was apart of the original game and it really is suited for casual gamer's or players who have many alts. I don't mind it at all and is really helpful for returning players.

3) I agree with you totally on this one, it is hard to obtain dwarf and elf influence gear in T1. But then again why not increase Experience in those zones as well? I think that would be a great idea.

4) I don't think that is needed i had no issue getting my influence gear in T2. But since we are able to get 32 now i see where the problem lies, that gear will get replaced pretty quickly though.


T3 is stale at some points but during EU time it is quite enjoyable but when its NA prime time it can be quite slow and become Door hammer. I don't really think there is really a way to resolve this issue unless we get more NA players. I think at 31 classes are pretty close from what i have been seeing in SC's.

I think there has been talks about a debolster, but it would take some time to code im sure. This game was always about competitive RvR and SC's in later tiers. But alot of the issues presented can be solved by having Alts.
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Re: Half XP & /Rested Off

Post#9 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:38 pm

Genisaurus wrote:It's not my call, but as a player, I would not be opposed to this.

The problem with a hard stop on leveling is that it allows people to twink by spending an unlimited amount of time in a tier collecting BiS gear. Slowing the leveling process might give more time to acquire better gear, but not so much that one becomes a twink.

As a side effect though, there would probably have to be a RR cap too then, to stop a situation where a person might have slowed their leveling so much that they are, say, 15/40. Otherwise this becomes just as imbalanced as gear disparities.

not really related to this but do you think there is any chance that you could make the t1 lair bosses stop giving exp?

Some time back i was trying to keep getting a bg bq helm as a drop but no luck on the drop and the exp just kept leveling me out of the tier since i could not use the "leave the group" thing fast enough some times
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Re: Half XP & /Rested Off

Post#10 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:50 pm

TenTonHammer wrote:
Genisaurus wrote:It's not my call, but as a player, I would not be opposed to this.

The problem with a hard stop on leveling is that it allows people to twink by spending an unlimited amount of time in a tier collecting BiS gear. Slowing the leveling process might give more time to acquire better gear, but not so much that one becomes a twink.

As a side effect though, there would probably have to be a RR cap too then, to stop a situation where a person might have slowed their leveling so much that they are, say, 15/40. Otherwise this becomes just as imbalanced as gear disparities.

not really related to this but do you think there is any chance that you could make the t1 lair bosses stop giving exp?

Some time back i was trying to keep getting a bg bq helm as a drop but no luck on the drop and the exp just kept leveling me out of the tier since i could not use the "leave the group" thing fast enough some times
Or make the drops more common as I haven't looted KOTBS helm yet...
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