Add pounce and charge to Squig Armour

[magter3001]

Screw pounce on a SH. Squig Armor is the biggest waste in the game and should just be removed from the game as melee squig just don't make any sense what so ever. Gobbos already have Run Away so having another way to escape is just over kill.

I rather have it on a mdps class on destro than on a range class.

[magter3001]

Screw pounce on a SH. Squig Armor is the biggest waste in the game and should just be removed from the game as melee squig just don't make any sense what so ever. Gobbos already have Run Away so having another way to escape is just over kill.

I rather have it on a mdps class on destro than on a range class.

Squig herders have an entire melee tree, which mdps are you suggesting would "get pounce" Choppa? Mare? WE? Never going to happen. It would at least be feasible in SA and add something fun to a bad tree

It's a waste though and not "feasible" because of the survival tactics and abilities that SH already have. Other than hilarity, there is absolutely no point for a SH to have pounce.

[bwdaWAR]

Squig Armor is the biggest waste in the game and should just be removed from the game

So not true. It's perfect for the goblin /special. And horse (or enslaved pack mule...) riding.

[Luth]

SH doesn't need another mobility/kite ability; besides that: it is a range class.

[Karast]

I think we can all agree Squig armour is trash, its something that sounds really cool but in excution kind of sucks, oh sure I remember the Squiggerer and loling as he mashed unsuspecting order into the ground but one mutant does not make a classes mechanic or even a tree very good.

I would like to see the abilities indigestion and big bouncing added to the core set of abilities to be unlocked at level X and those abilities on the tree replaced by Charge and Pounce respectively, for use ONLY within squig armour. It would work thematically, it would stop certain crybabies bleating on how destro dont have access to pounce and add viability to a rather underutilized tree.

Also it would be hilarious

I am not against buffs to melee squigs, but I don't think mobility is at the heart of the problem. If you want to make melee squigs viable and make squig armor less trash you going to need to do a lot more to tactics / abilities.

If you just want to mirror pounce there are other places / classes you could put it on.

Putting pounce on a spec, on a class that can't use it is more of a slap in the face than a buff.

[Bretin]

[quote=„magter3001“]screw pounce on a SH.[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]no point for a SH to have pounce.[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]i'll give you all that and more if Choppaz get pounce.[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]the WL wouldn't be able to pounce.[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]Order still has pounce.[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]WLs also have pull.[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]just ask a WL.[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]ensnared by WL.[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]WL, WL, WL[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]Heal debuff for pounce[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]RORs pounce already work like that, maybe better[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]Pounce working vertically with no cooldown and with WL's burst is sill and kinda gamebreaking.[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]They clearly need pounce[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]because you couldn't pounce for a second.[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]a skilled WL could technically pounce[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]apply HD and pounce[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]I know a lot of people hate pounce.[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]But this topic isn't about pounce so i'll keep that of of here.[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]the ability to pounce on keeps[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]can we disable pounce from keeps as well?[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]Consider it like WL's pounce[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]it's gonna get fixed where as pounce will not[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]to push it to the limit you need pounce.[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]Here is the rotation... pounce, followed by... pounce then another pounce. If target is still not dead, make sure you pounce again.[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]Why can't the devs fix pounce instead?[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]or role a WL and pounce[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]WL pounce to the top of the keep, working as intended... if that is the case,...[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]Wait until SM have their morale pounce. Pounce.[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]pounce is a good ability[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]pounce away from the zerg[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]If one of the melee classes or tank classes on Destro had pounce...[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]Pounce spam, what a noob.[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]you can give pounce a 20% snare ... but give pounce a 10 second cooldown.[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]i personally hated the SM pounce, more than the WL pounce.[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]will save bad WLs from pounce spam.[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]just spamming pounce[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]was not enough to stop the pounce[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]The pounce is not useless as it does damage[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]Also pounce is super effective[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]the best counter to run away isn't pounce. <- wow(!)[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]while the pounce has only the global cooldown[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]MY issue is more on the fact that the pounce has no cooldown[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]Not so much pounce[/quote]

[quote=„magter3001“]Not to mention most WL would just pounce at you the second they are in range.[/quote]

someone must have nightmares of male lions in short skirts using *insert WL gap closer here*

pls fix my [quotes] k thx!

[katroulitsa]

10/10 quoting skillz, GG WP

[Elratie]

real nice Bretin you did good with this quoting

10/10

[Bretin]

well i think they are just too much and aggy doesnt even stop yet ... sad life

[Karast]

If you just want to mirror pounce there are other places / classes you could put it on.

Putting pounce on a spec, on a class that can't use it is more of a slap in the face than a buff.

No there actually isnt, you cant give it to any of the destro MDPS classes, it wouldnt make any sort of thematic sense and given that the mdps classes all perform within a small variation of each other, drastic rebalances and ability nerfs/removals would be required. Its not coming to destro MDPS and its not going to go to a tank class so again, calling the SH a ranged class, which it primarily is, is still overlooking an entire tree which could be viable and needs work.

Look at the reality, the tree needs work. Its never going to be called OP, no rebalances would be required, no new animations, just a simple rejigging of abilities.

But whatever, if you think the WE, Choppa or Mara will ever see pounce just keep on dreaming and while you are doing that I will imagine my Night Goblin Fanatic mdps class.....

Hold on a second, read my full post.

I got no problem with making melee squigs viable. Buff away no issues with me, but just adding pounce is not going to make them viable. There are a lot of issues when it comes to melee squigs, bouncing in is not going to change the fact that the dps blows, and they really offer no kind of utility compared to other melee dps.

Also there are more options than Mara / Choppa / WE. It could be given to a tank or healer dps spec. Thematically pounce is an elf ability, They were going to give SM a friendly pounce at one point if my brain isn't completely rotting out.

It would be a bit silly to give it to a DoK, but it could work on BG if it was a high point spec ability or a morale. But it would take some figuring to fit it in a tree.

It is not like abilities are mirror class to class. A lot of stuff is mirrored in odd places, if mirrored at all.