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zulnam
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Re: Lack of roles in Order and Destro

Post#11 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:05 pm

We still have the class data from the last Q&A; it is probably outdated by now, but still more accurate than anything anyone here can say.
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Classes not visible from streamer head are Slayer and Rune Priest, in that order.
Hopefully at the next Q&A we can get an update on the class population; I know what I'll be asking about. ;)
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Re: Lack of roles in Order and Destro

Post#12 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:31 pm

2H tanks who don't guard are not socially accepted to the realm they are in and usually never gets invited to anything same with healers primarily doing dps and not considering passing a HoT to a player that needs it or a dps that's trying to be something it isn't.

That's how the game funnels the players who refuses to contribute to the team and players who takes their team into consideration.
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Evilest
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Re: Lack of roles in Order and Destro

Post#13 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:20 pm

rr means nothing. you almost get rr for farting.

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Re: Lack of roles in Order and Destro

Post#14 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:22 am

As mentioned, I just assume I'll not be guarded, and heals have ~30% to actually be heal spec. While FS IV, full parry, <950 str after pot and 10.5k HP is fun as a choppa, I definitely don't feel like I contribute much with that build. But I also last longer than 3s (5-7s wooo!), so I spend less time at the WC running back.

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Re: Lack of roles in Order and Destro

Post#15 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:45 am

I think everyone should accept that 99% of RoR players just play the game casual, they are not bad or stupid, just play for fun without thinking so much, player that take this game "serious" are only few.
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Re: Lack of roles in Order and Destro

Post#16 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:47 am

Bladepower7 wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:45 am I think everyone should accept that 99% of RoR players just play the game casual, they are not bad or stupid, just play for fun without thinking so much, player that take this game "serious" are only few.
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Re: Lack of roles in Order and Destro

Post#17 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 7:25 am

I've a suggestion, revert WH?WE stealth back to what it was, then we can address other things like pounce, rSH and whatever else. I think everyone is right on this thread, to many times I see tanks guarding then not being in guard range, dps hitting obviously full defensive tanks and healers not cleansing who then res players without healing them up and that's just on destro side. It's the simple things that make the difference. Prime example is on my choppa I always attack healers first (sorry guys it's nothing personal but I have to take you out) but no one follows lead they just stay and bash the tank or they run off to chase someone who is heading to the spawn leaving the team one less usually two less tanks so when we get flanked we wipe and then we get moaned at for losing.

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Re: Lack of roles in Order and Destro

Post#18 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:24 pm

space44 wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:31 pm 2H tanks who don't guard are not socially accepted to the realm they are in and usually never gets invited to anything same with healers primarily doing dps and not considering passing a HoT to a player that needs it or a dps that's trying to be something it isn't.

That's how the game funnels the players who refuses to contribute to the team and players who takes their team into consideration.
"not socially accepted to the realm they are in " dont means **** in ror culture, over 90% of the players xrealm for they individual/guild interests, no1 gives ashit about the realm.

the 2h tank you talk about "not being social accepted" :) dont gives a **** about the realm and even less about you ;p ofc he/she re-spec snb when in guild xrealm gameplay.

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Bladepower7
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Re: Lack of roles in Order and Destro

Post#19 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:14 pm

What's wrong with 2h tanks, they are totally fine, as long as they not build full glass cannon. 2h tank usually provide unique buff/debuff and a decent damage pressure, I played SnB kotbs a lot, and trust me, if you don't have a good dps to guard, but a mediocre one, you feel completely useless, as a 2h you can still guard your dps pretty well and in the meanwhile help him/them secure a kill. Depends on situations but both SnB and 2h tank are fine in their own.
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Re: Lack of roles in Order and Destro

Post#20 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:15 pm

order needs more rdps

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