[PTS] Patch Notes 07/09/2025

[Sever1n]

Short version.
Normal punts for sm and bork.
Finally some arm pent buff for kotbs.
30% nerf for all magical debuff sourses exept sorks and bw.
Huge nerf to all magical aoe tnx to resists auras nerfed in half.
Useless change for heal am that wont change anything.
Huge boost of dragon talon
Something changed for toxic soulkiller tactics.
And -5 movespeed for Irelia.

[Bozzax]

@op the biggest concern I have with this is the previous removal and transfer of CS from chosen to a SM variant that will be a permanent up now for organised play.

Relevant in the design decisions above is passive +15% heals that is order enjoy together with recent group absorbs buffs of wp (used to be the destruction mostly)

Also BO version … ST physical plus 4s magic damage reduction isn’t noway near as effective. There are so many reasons for this and I don’t fancy listing them I’m sure you can figure them out.

[Farrul]

30% nerf for all magical debuff sourses exept sorks and bw.

Every single target magic resistance debuff is unaffected, so it only applies to AOE debuff skills.

If you're chosen/SM/AM? Too bad. Solo roaming Magus? Rejoice you're still OP as always in this mode

[leftayparxoun]

Why has the engineer/magus group wide resistance buffs been excluded from these universal rules? Or was in not listed in the notes.

Looking at Burn salve/Demonic resistance. So they're still at full power of 370 whilst everyone else got nerfed?

Because they are now the only true ST resist buff in the game. Runepriest/Zealot resist buffs seem to be treated as AOE due to having 1 hour duration and being applicable to all party mates at the same time. For that reason they are getting the AOE Resist buff value (240). Magus'/Engi's version is only applicable to 1 team mate so they are getting the ST buff version value (360)

New mechanic looks interesting. But all magic tanks should do less DPS than previously, especially Chosen got the resistance aura debuff halved in effectiveness.

Pretty much every single source of resist buffs (except for the aforementioned Magus/Engi buff) has been similarly decreased. Essentially this leads to quite similar Resist totals if both a resist buff and a debuff are applied, compared to before the patch. If anything, it leads to less resistances on average now.

e.g. Enemy KOTBS with 9 points in Path of Glory vs friendly Chosen with 9 points in Path of Discord:

• Before:
  Old KOTBS resist buff = +327
  Old Chosen resist strip = -163
  Old resist bonus = 327-163 = +164

• Now:
  New KOTBS resist buff = +208
  New Chosen resist strip = -104
  New resist bonus = 208-104 = +104

60 less resistances due to this patch's changes.

At max mastery points for both buffs and debuffs we are looking at 69 less resistances than before (old vs new = +189 vs +120).
At 0 mastery points for both buffs and debuffs we are looking at 46 less resistances than before (old vs new = +126 vs +80).

Even at the "worst" case scenario (0 mastery points KOTBS vs 15 mastery points Chosen) we are looking at 23 less resistances than before (old vs new = +63 vs +40)

[hordak774]

what will be at 13pt as BO

I assume is is the reintroduced you woot.

[Sever1n]

30% nerf for all magical debuff sourses exept sorks and bw.

Every single target magic resistance debuff is unaffected, so it only applies to AOE debuff skills.

If you're chosen/SM/AM? Too bad. Solo roaming Magus? Rejoice you're still OP as always in this mode

They deserved nerf, espesially sm. But it will hit hard on spirit skills of other classes, ferwor, lions fury, guilty soul, etc that was relying on sm debuff. Sork/bw dont have aoe debufs and was relying on auras, so its another nail in ther coffin.

[Farrul]

Because they are now the only true ST resist buff in the game. Runepriest/Zealot resist buffs seem to be treated as AOE due to having 1 hour duration and being applicable to all party mates at the same time. For that reason they are getting the AOE Resist buff value (240). Magus'/Engi's version is only applicable to 1 team mate so they are getting the ST buff version value (360)

This is right, i was under the impression they buffed the whole group. Makes sense now with the new rule, although still OP from a roaming perspective to have a full 360 resistance buff whilst everone else has a lower value of 240.

Especially Magus since their single-taget debuff remains 370, whilst Engineer acid bomb( AOE) took the nerf.

P.S

Pretty much every single source of resist buffs (except for the aforementioned Magus/Engi buff) has been similarly decreased.

Need to keep in mind that 2H Chosen/SM are the two most popular solo roaming tanks. In such a context it's going to translate to a tangible nerf for them since solo targets do not reliably come with resistance buffs. At least from a debuffing point of view( not considering the new mechanics of Chosen Aura).

I.e Chosen vs WH's (most likely enemy). SM vs Regen WE.

[Farrul]

30% nerf for all magical debuff sourses exept sorks and bw.

Every single target magic resistance debuff is unaffected, so it only applies to AOE debuff skills.

If you're chosen/SM/AM? Too bad. Solo roaming Magus? Rejoice you're still OP as always in this mode

They deserved nerf, espesially sm. But it will hit hard on spirit skills of other classes, ferwor, lions fury, guilty soul, etc that was relying on sm debuff. Sork/bw dont have aoe debufs and was relying on auras, so its another nail in ther coffin.

I think the most reliable Spirit debuff for Order was Storm of Chronos( given all the dps AM's ). Now nerfed as well. I agree it is deserved, for tanks this closes the gap a little to the Phys dps dealers.

Too bad some classes are mostly an exception to the rule and are allowed to remain OP. *whistles innocently*

[Sever1n]

Feels like that full chopa/lion wb will be new meta soon.

[hordak774]

what will be at 13pt as BO

I assume is is the reintroduced you woot.

maan, 25% chop fasta kind of.. 35 is fine