Shield Warrior Priest underperformance even with BiS gear

[kpihuss]

@kpihuss

Is it possible for you to redo the experiment this weekend with a build Demonito mention?
Absorb aura, WoW, PR after benediction

If i wont be away on weekend (ill prolly know by friday evening) i can join and help out as any archetype at least for some scs. Can form <6, can form 6.

I strongly suspect that if you fully adjust playstyle and build, get a bit of coordination within a group results may be completely different.

Also 40% of average DPS player is quite amazing number by itself. Its big pressure for a cost of being 88% of book WP healing. Selfprotection is also not a horrible thing as you paint it out, it can be from a) enemy "wasted" their efforts into trying to kill 60% block healer so there has been no pressure on your DPS who could do whatever they wish to b) flawed number (fluffed) due to poor methodology of how it counts, e.g. your own parry buff - it really depends on exact encounter, taking into account you ran all that in super blob sc during weekend its a huge flaw, cause dragon bane was super puggy (event times), it had literally tons of clueless orvr folks in aoe orvr specs (event times) so it may explain such big number of selfprotection just by environment itself.

tl;dr will you post such analysis in case numbers will on contrary tell completely the opposite story in case you redo the test with different build/rotation/spec?

I'm trying the Demonito spec RN, testing it for SC weekend. Some lines from the SC chat...

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And don't worry, i will post the numbers of all weeks from now

[Ruin]

My observations in terms usability of Shield spec for both Dok and WP:

The DPS spec (healing from DMG/lifetaps) i not viable anymore, you are forced to go for the bonus healing instead.
so, the split of healing is pointless now, especially since many skills are not available for 2h spec.
And this might be the reason why the spec feels/preforms below some players expectations.
Since if player is building for heal bonus, heal increase he won’t be doing dmg and should be design for heal slot in wb, and while if he is building for dps he does not provide enough dmg or healing to be viable as dps slot.

[Demonito]

Don't get me wrong, shield wp lacks something
Just think it's best to max Mcrit>Fstrike(under 0%)>block in that order (then str or armor/wounds)
Survivability is fine with mini 20% block as long tank can switch guard fast (and you can hit stuff)
You can spec without Pious Restoration/Divine Warding but you need Sigmar's Shield at least
Then I'm no expert, better trust Rydiak guide or other's advices

Shield healers are probably more amazing in some scenarios than others. Stuff like Brightwizard collage just planting on the flag, having a layout and mechanic where the enemy has to come to you, and not too much space for ranged to kite you. Compared to Serpents passage where ranged will bunny jump no scope you down from the distance.

That's the real deal
Tried few sc (80sov dok/50dp wp) and it was always hardcore gameplay in Serpent's
Shield best place to shine in sc is small maps

[Xalon]

Umm, wouldn't a full set of Sovereign set of the Martyr be BiS?

[Mvl130]

I'm curious, why do you say that healdebuff is no longer a good option ?

Only cause you can't take it with Pious Restoration, the best spell to cast after Benediction
+ in a balanced sc you're always under pressure, non stop spammin' heal. 1 lifetap makes a huge dif'
Also have to aim the weakest target at range to max the healing (often means hittin' pets...)
Better leave HD to a sw/slayer/dps wp... If nobody has it your team prob ain't great
Heal Archmage can easily take it tho
If your team is safe, you can still assist with silence/purge/slow/(de)buff ect...

Okay, and another question, what combination of set would you use with your recommended build ?

[Demonito]

5sov+4vic is prob the meta as usual