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kleinbuchstabe
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Re: I dont wanna be rude but... what?!

Post#41 » Thu Jul 09, 2026 3:55 pm

dukamamuka wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2026 8:58 pm Basically thats what i trying to not to do - leave. I mean I enjoy the gameplay so much but game just doesnt want me to play it.

If you enjoy the gameplay of scenario basicly, then you realy should look for a group, or even better, for a guild with focus on Scenarios. The real gameplay (and fun) potential of scenarios unfolds with players that you know, cause it will lead to a coordinated gameplay. For now, dont get frustrated. Get a group/guild and improve your skill, and your SC experience will turn out for the better

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Re: I dont wanna be rude but... what?!

Post#42 » Thu Jul 09, 2026 4:14 pm

kleinbuchstabe wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2026 3:55 pm
dukamamuka wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2026 8:58 pm Basically thats what i trying to not to do - leave. I mean I enjoy the gameplay so much but game just doesnt want me to play it.

If you enjoy the gameplay of scenario basicly, then you realy should look for a group, or even better, for a guild with focus on Scenarios. The real gameplay (and fun) potential of scenarios unfolds with players that you know, cause it will lead to a coordinated gameplay. For now, dont get frustrated. Get a group/guild and improve your skill, and your SC experience will turn out for the better
Should they really? Recent SC changes made it in to the solo circus. The wait time for a 6 man is much longer than solo atm.

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kleinbuchstabe
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Re: I dont wanna be rude but... what?!

Post#43 » Thu Jul 09, 2026 5:13 pm

Ofc he/they should.
1. its not only solo que or 6man que, there are 2-5 player groups in between wich work very good, pop wise and gameplay wise.
2. As bigger the amount of people queueing in groups, as better is the pop rate, and probably the quality of fights too.
3. As mentioned before, group play is the basis of having fun in Scenarios (imo), and it will increase his chances to win.

i will always encourage people to play scenarios in groups instead of queue solo

Alubert
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Re: I dont wanna be rude but... what?!

Post#44 » Thu Jul 09, 2026 5:46 pm

No, that’s not true. Since the new matchmaking was introduced, prem teams aren’t as powerful as they used to be. In 95% of cases, you get very balanced team compositions. I’ve seen many times how a well-balanced and skilled pug team beats a full 6-man team.
Of course, there are sometimes groups on Discord, but they don’t have the same influence as they used to.
The problem usually lies in the players’ lack of knowledge.
In the case of Order, a common and egregious mistake is that a large number of players (who likely play WB daily and have no idea what the more advanced SC gameplay entails) jump into SC with a useless AoE spec. I don’t know why, but on Destro, far fewer players make this mistake (of course, there are still some “monster Mara” or “free-immun GTDC choppas,” but there are definitely fewer of them).
Many don’t assist each other. WH/WE try to play as if they were in a solo ORVR, and instead of playing like regular DPS, they try to attack solo on their own. People often hit the wrong targets. They give away free immunities (AoE pulls / AoE punts). They have bad builds. Tanks try to run around the enemy backline on their own instead of protecting their DPS, etc.
Sometimes, a single good player can tip the scales of victory in one side’s favor.

If many of these mistakes are made in every match and the other side doesn’t make them, you can end up losing 30 matches in a row.
It’s all the fault of the players in the queue.
To me, it’s normal for the better players to beat the worse ones. It would be strange if it were any other way.
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Brighteluden
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Re: I dont wanna be rude but... what?!

Post#45 » Thu Jul 09, 2026 10:13 pm

This is the problem i've experienced when doing T3 scenario's which again a lot of new players may have issues and just flat out quit, so yes there are tons more order premades in scenario's in the T3 bracket especially during NA primetime and to top it off engineers are crazy overpowered in Tier 3, so order teams will stack warpriest and mid level engineers and essentially roll the opposing team easily ontop of being in a premade.

I've definitely experienced this and it can be demoralizing if you're a new player playing destro, this somewhat equalizes in T4 though, where scenarios are more back and forth since engineers' kind of take a back seat and bright wizards/shadow warriors now dominate more on order side in terms of range. I've had the same experience 10+ scenario losses and usually the teams are composed as I said engineers and warpriests, they just stagger their CC, end up doing crazy amounts of AoE damage while having reliable burst, honestly, it's not surprising seeing 4 engies on teams on order side, with that said in T4 again it's different, so that's my 2 cents. So, if you're on destruction side and dealing with this issue, it's not uncommon for these team comps to steam roll you in T3, I feel like peeps on order side just roll engineers when they get upset and play them in T3 out of spite lol.

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gisborne
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Re: I dont wanna be rude but... what?!

Post#46 » Fri Jul 10, 2026 12:52 am

Brighteluden wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2026 10:13 pm usually the teams are composed as I said engineers and warpriests, they just stagger their CC, end up doing crazy amounts of AoE damage while having reliable burst
What? Warrior priests doing crazy CC and AE damage since when?

Engineer CC? You mean like 3s stagger, worse than knights and chosen have? Engineers with no silence, no ranged knockdown, no heal debuff? Engineer whose AE damage is composed of DoTs which are easy to group heal through? That engineer?

I've officially heard it all. Fear the engineer and warrior priest, bane of scenarios!
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