Yes, that's why we also should remove stagger from wh-we.abezverkhiy wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2026 2:17 am Those basing their arguments with the statement "this is how it was on live" should also recall how broken and unbalanced live was. Not once we all here used to thank RoR Devs for fixing Mythic cockups.
[PTS] Patch Notes 23/07/2026 - RDPS Patch and New Scenario Mechanic
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- Florian90210
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 23/07/2026 - RDPS Patch and New Scenario Mechanic
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 23/07/2026 - RDPS Patch and New Scenario Mechanic
And pounce.Florian90210 wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2026 5:36 amYes, that's why we also should remove stagger from wh-we.abezverkhiy wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2026 2:17 am Those basing their arguments with the statement "this is how it was on live" should also recall how broken and unbalanced live was. Not once we all here used to thank RoR Devs for fixing Mythic cockups.
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abezverkhiy
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 23/07/2026 - RDPS Patch and New Scenario Mechanic
what classes are your mains? Florian and Rorswar
Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 23/07/2026 - RDPS Patch and New Scenario Mechanic
Should also remove finishers and spam attacks. Have them with zero armour and allow them only to walk and not able to use any gear set.........Florian90210 wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2026 5:36 amYes, that's why we also should remove stagger from wh-we.abezverkhiy wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2026 2:17 am Those basing their arguments with the statement "this is how it was on live" should also recall how broken and unbalanced live was. Not once we all here used to thank RoR Devs for fixing Mythic cockups.
My WH videos - viewtopic.php?f=53&t=42669
Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 23/07/2026 - RDPS Patch and New Scenario Mechanic
The stealth class nerfs are definitely a step in the right direction, but I still think they're a bit too conservative.
After testing the Sorcerer (my usual playstyle, about 90% solo), I'd say the changes are mostly positive. Nothing feels overly nerfed or underwhelming, but I still wish this had been a full rework. The class deserves a less punishing core mechanic. Here too, I think you've played it a little too safe, although I still believe it's good work overall.
I'm disappointed not to see any nerfs to healer/DPS hybrids, which, in my opinion, remain the biggest balance issue.
As for the changes to the other classes, I can't really comment since I don't play them.
After testing the Sorcerer (my usual playstyle, about 90% solo), I'd say the changes are mostly positive. Nothing feels overly nerfed or underwhelming, but I still wish this had been a full rework. The class deserves a less punishing core mechanic. Here too, I think you've played it a little too safe, although I still believe it's good work overall.
I'm disappointed not to see any nerfs to healer/DPS hybrids, which, in my opinion, remain the biggest balance issue.
As for the changes to the other classes, I can't really comment since I don't play them.
Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 23/07/2026 - RDPS Patch and New Scenario Mechanic
Don't compare AoR and RoR stats in absolute terms. Maybe you've forgotten what kind of damage bonus you could have had with AoR compared to RoR (100 RR, LOD gear, 90 RR and 100 RR sets, 90 RR and 100 RR weapons). You can't make a fair comparison that way. The point is what capabilities WE/WH had back then versus what they have now.Hienzwar wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2026 12:08 amYou have replied to a few comments in a similar vain. I'll bite.Alubert wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2026 8:25 pmAre you a new player? Because that’s the only thing that could explain your confusion.Shogun4138 wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2026 6:49 pm
Look, we get it. You have single handedly made more 80rr WEs.
30 sec stealth is ridiculous. Its the main mechanic in a stealth class. The fact that you have made it your personal mission to attack stealth classes 8s self evident.
The 30-second shadow was in place throughout AoR and part of RoR, and nothing was missing from WE/WH. On this server, both classes are still significantly stronger than on the live server.
WH on live. I was the first WH world wide to get the berserker title on live, played the class for so long it's ridiculous. To say that its stronger now then on live is wild - I could kd and kill most classes in around 4 seconds on live. 4k crits plus insane AA. ROR has a huge reduction in output across all mdps, maybe you didn't play much AOR or maybe you are new?
As for 30 seconds stealth, come on. It kills so much utility regardless of the mirror to live and stages of AOR.
30 seconds is more than enough.
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FeelFreeToDie
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 23/07/2026 - RDPS Patch and New Scenario Mechanic
at PTS it says "Path of assault abilities". so yeah, only draw blood and its still hugeRuin wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2026 11:01 pm does - Merciless Soldier: Now also increases critical damage of damage over time effects. also affects other dots or only draw blood?
Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 23/07/2026 - RDPS Patch and New Scenario Mechanic
omg, aSW... Magus has a disarm and huge burst. They gonna blow you up in seconds.FeelFreeToDie wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2026 8:50 amat PTS it says "Path of assault abilities". so yeah, only draw blood and its still hugeRuin wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2026 11:01 pm does - Merciless Soldier: Now also increases critical damage of damage over time effects. also affects other dots or only draw blood?
Anybody else having tested Sorc/BW, Magus/Engi and SH/SW? I can tell you one thing: It's gonna be easier than evar for destro. With the exception of maybe WL vs Mara, literally every destro dps gonna be better than their order mirror by at least 20% damage and better tools. You don't believe me? Well pick one pair and try it out...
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 23/07/2026 - RDPS Patch and New Scenario Mechanic
I appreciate that. However your point was that Wh is stronger now then on live, a direct comparison. Curious how you came to that?Alubert wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2026 7:52 amDon't compare AoR and RoR stats in absolute terms. Maybe you've forgotten what kind of damage bonus you could have had with AoR compared to RoR (100 RR, LOD gear, 90 RR and 100 RR sets, 90 RR and 100 RR weapons). You can't make a fair comparison that way. The point is what capabilities WE/WH had back then versus what they have now.Hienzwar wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2026 12:08 amYou have replied to a few comments in a similar vain. I'll bite.Alubert wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2026 8:25 pm
Are you a new player? Because that’s the only thing that could explain your confusion.
The 30-second shadow was in place throughout AoR and part of RoR, and nothing was missing from WE/WH. On this server, both classes are still significantly stronger than on the live server.
WH on live. I was the first WH world wide to get the berserker title on live, played the class for so long it's ridiculous. To say that its stronger now then on live is wild - I could kd and kill most classes in around 4 seconds on live. 4k crits plus insane AA. ROR has a huge reduction in output across all mdps, maybe you didn't play much AOR or maybe you are new?
As for 30 seconds stealth, come on. It kills so much utility regardless of the mirror to live and stages of AOR.
30 seconds is more than enough.
Not forgotten, nor am I bypassing the gear jump at rr90 etc/different game. The point on stealth is quality of life on a class that will be picked last for large scale.
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FeelFreeToDie
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 23/07/2026 - RDPS Patch and New Scenario Mechanic
they can do that without RDPS patch, so why should i care? :>lumpi33 wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2026 10:25 amomg, aSW... Magus has a disarm and huge burst. They gonna blow you up in seconds.FeelFreeToDie wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2026 8:50 amat PTS it says "Path of assault abilities". so yeah, only draw blood and its still hugeRuin wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2026 11:01 pm does - Merciless Soldier: Now also increases critical damage of damage over time effects. also affects other dots or only draw blood?
Anybody else having tested Sorc/BW, Magus/Engi and SH/SW? I can tell you one thing: It's gonna be easier than evar for destro. With the exception of maybe WL vs Mara, literally every destro dps gonna be better than their order mirror by at least 20% damage and better tools. You don't believe me? Well pick one pair and try it out...
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