Add City Quitter Debuff

[normanis]

i thought u have already city quiter. if u leave city/afk
make city like lotd 100vs 100

[Rotgut]

Proposal

Add a debuff for people that leave city before the end of stage 3. This debuff would be account wide and prevent someone from queueing for city for the next city lockout.

I stopped reading after there. Why do you wanna punish people that hard? Instead of punishing people for leaving cities the aim should be to make them more fun and less of a stomp. Then people wouldn't have to quit or sit out. A game is to enjoy time and have fun, not to get punished. People seem to forget that.

Thats why he also proposed a Surrender option... Quitter debuff would prevent solo quitters that ruin City for everybody else, thats it. Solo pugs vs organized grps can just Surrender, and so can an organized group when they want to leave after stage 1 or 2, so the people that won won't have to spend 15min doing nothing.

[trh382]

Debuffs do no matter if non actually goes to the city.

City is some of the most fun content in the game.

Hahahahahaha . Thanks for the entertainment bro, funniest post I have read on those forums in a very long time.

Glad to have brought joy to your day friend

[trh382]

i thought u have already city quiter. if u leave city/afk
make city like lotd 100vs 100

City leaving currently gives a regular quitter debuff that impacts everything for 30 minutes.

This proposal would have a city specific quitter that only impacted city, but for days.

The current quitter debuff just stops people queuing SCs for a bit after qutting city.

[trh382]

Proposal

Add a debuff for people that leave city before the end of stage 3. This debuff would be account wide and prevent someone from queueing for city for the next city lockout.

I stopped reading after there. Why do you wanna punish people that hard? Instead of punishing people for leaving cities the aim should be to make them more fun and less of a stomp. Then people wouldn't have to quit or sit out. A game is to enjoy time and have fun, not to get punished. People seem to forget that.

My suggestion would be to allow only group queuing for cities and then mix the groups together for wb vs wb play. By doing that we wouldn't have organized premade warbands facing pugs. It would be a random mix of organized and pug groups for a more unpredictable outcome.

This is a very minor punishment. Notice that the several days is required for them to not be able to participate in the next city. You can still queue SCs, play open RvR, PvE - basically the rest of the game.

City requires that all 24 players on both sides play out the game until there is a clear decision or it ruins the match for everyone.

If you play soccer or basketball at the local park and you agree to be one of the players for a match - no one is going to let you come back and play next week if you decide midway through that the teams are "bullshit" and walk off.

Same principle here - signing up to queue city should be considered to be making a commitment to the other 47 people in the match that you will play out the game unless there is an agreed forfeit by a clear majority on one side.

You are still allowed to quit, you just won't be welcome back next city if you break the rules by quitting midway.

[trh382]

Proposal

Add a debuff for people that leave city before the end of stage 3. This debuff would be account wide and prevent someone from queueing for city for the next city lockout.

My suggestion would be to allow only group queuing for cities and then mix the groups together for wb vs wb play. By doing that we wouldn't have organized premade warbands facing pugs. It would be a random mix of organized and pug groups for a more unpredictable outcome.

The queue system currently matches solo Qs against each other. This is very important IMO to give people a chance to see city when they are fresh and dont know how to find city teams.

If you eliminated this option, solo queuers would either not play or queue as disorganized teams and the system would get worse at matchmaking.

Furthermore, group Qs rage quitting because they are frustrated at who they are losing to or at the quality of their teammates are just as serious a problem as Solo Qers quitting.

I think eliminating solo Q is most likely to reduce the quality of the city experience.

[bw10]

Proposal

Add a debuff for people that leave city before the end of stage 3. This debuff would be account wide and prevent someone from queueing for city for the next city lockout.

I stopped reading after there. Why do you wanna punish people that hard? Instead of punishing people for leaving cities the aim should be to make them more fun and less of a stomp. Then people wouldn't have to quit or sit out. A game is to enjoy time and have fun, not to get punished. People seem to forget that.

My suggestion would be to allow only group queuing for cities and then mix the groups together for wb vs wb play. By doing that we wouldn't have organized premade warbands facing pugs. It would be a random mix of organized and pug groups for a more unpredictable outcome.

This is a very minor punishment. Notice that the several days is required for them to not be able to participate in the next city. You can still queue SCs, play open RvR, PvE - basically the rest of the game.

City requires that all 24 players on both sides play out the game until there is a clear decision or it ruins the match for everyone.

If you play soccer or basketball at the local park and you agree to be one of the players for a match - no one is going to let you come back and play next week if you decide midway through that the teams are "bullshit" and walk off.

Same principle here - signing up to queue city should be considered to be making a commitment to the other 47 people in the match that you will play out the game unless there is an agreed forfeit by a clear majority on one side.

You are still allowed to quit, you just won't be welcome back next city if you break the rules by quitting midway.

nah bro. if its a **** city i am not letting the other side keep me hostage for an hour while i try to dodge afk kick or get farmed

[trh382]

Add a Scenario que option for reinforcements.

- City is opend for the number of players qued
- From this point on you can que for reinforcement
- If people leave their city -> you jump in
- make it Solo and Group que, a complete new group can make a difference in a f... up city

This would be fine for the solo Q instance

I do not think it would work for the group instances at all - since strong groups are very unlikely to form after the city queue has popped and rotating weaker groups or solo Q groups into lopsided group matches is not helping anyone.

[trh382]

I stopped reading after there. Why do you wanna punish people that hard? Instead of punishing people for leaving cities the aim should be to make them more fun and less of a stomp. Then people wouldn't have to quit or sit out. A game is to enjoy time and have fun, not to get punished. People seem to forget that.

My suggestion would be to allow only group queuing for cities and then mix the groups together for wb vs wb play. By doing that we wouldn't have organized premade warbands facing pugs. It would be a random mix of organized and pug groups for a more unpredictable outcome.

This is a very minor punishment. Notice that the several days is required for them to not be able to participate in the next city. You can still queue SCs, play open RvR, PvE - basically the rest of the game.

City requires that all 24 players on both sides play out the game until there is a clear decision or it ruins the match for everyone.

If you play soccer or basketball at the local park and you agree to be one of the players for a match - no one is going to let you come back and play next week if you decide midway through that the teams are "bullshit" and walk off.

Same principle here - signing up to queue city should be considered to be making a commitment to the other 47 people in the match that you will play out the game unless there is an agreed forfeit by a clear majority on one side.

You are still allowed to quit, you just won't be welcome back next city if you break the rules by quitting midway.

nah bro. if its a **** city i am not letting the other side keep me hostage for an hour while i try to dodge afk kick or get farmed

This is why there is a surrender option - the other side cannot hold you hostage.

[bw10]

This is a very minor punishment. Notice that the several days is required for them to not be able to participate in the next city. You can still queue SCs, play open RvR, PvE - basically the rest of the game.

City requires that all 24 players on both sides play out the game until there is a clear decision or it ruins the match for everyone.

If you play soccer or basketball at the local park and you agree to be one of the players for a match - no one is going to let you come back and play next week if you decide midway through that the teams are "bullshit" and walk off.

Same principle here - signing up to queue city should be considered to be making a commitment to the other 47 people in the match that you will play out the game unless there is an agreed forfeit by a clear majority on one side.

You are still allowed to quit, you just won't be welcome back next city if you break the rules by quitting midway.

nah bro. if its a **** city i am not letting the other side keep me hostage for an hour while i try to dodge afk kick or get farmed

This is why there is a surrender option - the other side cannot hold you hostage.

surrender vote going thru depends on my side agreeing. and i am not going to be held hostage by them either. the truth is, cities were always ****. i say that as person who geared up full sov tank extremely fast spamming cities when they happened every night eu time. snb sm with full fluff build for that gold bag on every stage