Lower WL burst by 30-40%.

[Sinisterror]

Imo they should allow specs like RoR.builders - White Lion Again or is there better counter to pet getting killed and if killed 75% dmg boost 10s or even 100% with Leonine Frenzy so there would be 5s downtime on wl being useful after pet dies. If you have better idea's tell how to counter pet issues tell them

Well not sure this is the thread to discuss it but, WL pet have needed buffs for a long time, considering how many important tactics and abilities and overall utility is tied to the pet, a 15 sec CD is an insane downtime from a balance polint of view, so is the general low survivability of the lion pet making it unsuited for anything else than small scale combat. It can never work in a wb and just gets killd.

In fact the loner tactic would never need to exist if lion was desgined adequately from the beginning, feels like a band-aid solution tactic to a fundamental class problem.

Here:
viewtopic.php?t=52217

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n9wm3uHmgk

Imo this is how wl and the pet should work ( did work in RoR back 2017) 26s drop off and pouncing to enemy and pet being there as well. Also 54s pounce from bridge KB back. This version of wl was so much more fun than ror version imo

[Coocooclock]

A wl is able to solo burst even a player in a defensive spec, without needing any kind of a preparation- the only class in the game capable of doing so.

WL pose no danger to me when i use detaunt immediately. Also if you are trying to solo a WL as you have said here, you need to learn it's not a solo game. No matter how much people repeat that or say they are solo. They still are not. It's just an ego thing some people can't control.

[zulnam]

I mean, taking this out of context a bit, and to be fair:

If a post themed around "nerf WL" created in a day has gotten 4 pages of replies, it probably means that we're full circle again in terms of balance and will probably see Slayer nerf threads in a month or two.

[Paxsanarion]

There is more PVP in this one thread than in the actual game. Mork - Return of Reckoning a text based adventure.

[MedV]

I forgot the WL pet existed. Havent seen a WL running around with the pet in Months lol.

[vanbuinen77]

Imo they should allow specs like RoR.builders - White Lion Again or is there better counter to pet getting killed and if killed 75% dmg boost 10s or even 100% with Leonine Frenzy so there would be 5s downtime on wl being useful after pet dies. If you have better idea's tell how to counter pet issues tell them

Well not sure this is the thread to discuss it but, WL pet have needed buffs for a long time, considering how many important tactics and abilities and overall utility is tied to the pet, a 15 sec CD is an insane downtime from a balance polint of view, so is the general low survivability of the lion pet making it unsuited for anything else than small scale combat. It can never work in a wb and just gets killd.

In fact the loner tactic would never need to exist if lion was desgined adequately from the beginning, feels like a band-aid solution tactic to a fundamental class problem.

Here:
viewtopic.php?t=52217

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n9wm3uHmgk

Imo this is how wl and the pet should work ( did work in RoR back 2017) 26s drop off and pouncing to enemy and pet being there as well. Also 54s pounce from bridge KB back. This version of wl was so much more fun than ror version imo

Good wls can still do this.

[Sulorie]

The answer is obvious. Nerf Magus

Agree!

Finally some common sense here, I almost thought <my> forums goes fully bonkers. :^)

[Zxul]

Keyboard/Mouse topic: move away from it before it get close to you, If you see a pet, kill it in before it even goes your direction a pet lion without pet wont kill you, detaunt/snare/guard willl make anything come from him laughable, If he still kills you, the issue could be you are a Glass canon or failed the previous steps.

Yes of cause, somehow a cloth wearer, which doesn't has any charge, should be able to always move away from a closing pet. And obviously also to outrun pouncing WL. And to somehow burst down the pet in 3 sec, despite WL being the only class in the game actually capable of doing so. Anything to protect the obviously broken OP class, is it?

Oh another destro fanboy crying for being pwned. Get gud camarad!

And here some order doesn't even tries to hide it, if the spec is broken to the level of being pure harassment to destro cloth players, it is "crying" and get gud".

I never ''said'' that, if you re-read i wrote and i quote myself : '' mediocre regen we's included''.

i can to my experience defeat most we's on this server

Yes, even if the same post you can't stop yourself from admitting just how absolutely bonkers broken WL class is. I am directly quoting your original post- "95% of we's on the server will die to WL burst 1vs1"- and yet somehow you still claim the the class with the best mobility in the game, which can erase any cloth wearer per your own words with a burst which doesn't requires any preparation, is balanced and even requires buffs.

It is nice how some players try to protect their broken OP spec, to be able to kill any cloth wearer without any possibility of the counterplay, despite everyone knowing just how broken OP WL is. Just this class by itself is responsible to large number of destro cloth players quitting the game for good.

[Everdin]

Keyboard/Mouse topic: move away from it before it get close to you, If you see a pet, kill it in before it even goes your direction a pet lion without pet wont kill you, detaunt/snare/guard willl make anything come from him laughable, If he still kills you, the issue could be you are a Glass canon or failed the previous steps.

Yes of cause, somehow a cloth wearer, which doesn't has any charge, should be able to always move away from a closing pet. And obviously also to outrun pouncing WL. And to somehow burst down the pet in 3 sec, despite WL being the only class in the game actually capable of doing so. Anything to protect the obviously broken OP class, is it?

Oh another destro fanboy crying for being pwned. Get gud camarad!

And here some order doesn't even tries to hide it, if the spec is broken to the level of being pure harassment to destro cloth players, it is "crying" and get gud".

I never ''said'' that, if you re-read i wrote and i quote myself : '' mediocre regen we's included''.

i can to my experience defeat most we's on this server

Yes, even if the same post you can't stop yourself from admitting just how absolutely bonkers broken WL class is. I am directly quoting your original post- "95% of we's on the server will die to WL burst 1vs1"- and yet somehow you still claim the the class with the best mobility in the game, which can erase any cloth wearer per your own words with a burst which doesn't requires any preparation, is balanced and even requires buffs.

It is nice how some players try to protect their broken OP spec, to be able to kill any cloth wearer without any possibility of the counterplay, despite everyone knowing just how broken OP WL is. Just this class by itself is responsible to large number of destro cloth players quitting the game for good.

constantly repeat you claims doesn't make them right.

I am courius what your definition of def/regn char is if you put it equal to a pet

[Farrul]

Yes, even if the same post you can't stop yourself from admitting just how absolutely bonkers broken WL class is. I am directly quoting your original post- "95% of we's on the server will die to WL burst 1vs1"- and yet somehow you still claim the the class with the best mobility in the game, which can erase any cloth wearer per your own words with a burst which doesn't requires any preparation, is balanced and even requires buffs.

It is nice how some players try to protect their broken OP spec, to be able to kill any cloth wearer without any possibility of the counterplay, despite everyone knowing just how broken OP WL is. Just this class by itself is responsible to large number of destro cloth players quitting the game for good.

You can make up your own context and then keep repeating the message over and over, there is nothing to admit since the message you're trying so hard to convey just isn't true. Everyone who plays a WL will know this, i suggest you make your own WL then go out there and face some destro roamers, i can guarantee it you will quickly change your mind.

P.S. What do you mean no preparation? To play a WL well one must have absolute control of the pet which is irresponsive, slow, falls behind, need to be in melee in a ranged meta game, what you claim is just silly at this point. It need tons of preparation and timing of execution in comparison to ranged characters who just can target someone at 100 range and pew pew away.

I think you have confused WL with Magus , that's one class who better fits your descriptions of OP.

Watch the Wl's melt.
https://youtu.be/V_YU0bK1r2U?t=250
https://youtu.be/V_YU0bK1r2U?t=103